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Attributes | |
ACN | 251013 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 6300 |
ASRS Report | 251013 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 21200 |
ASRS Report | 250818 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We landed at jfk on runway 13L, rolled to the end, and turned off right, onto ya. Tower directed us to make first left. However, at this time, aircraft was already past the point to make a left turn onto zb. We were faced with a left turn onto Y or a 270 degrees right turn in order to go down zb. Captain asked crew which taxi to go down zb or Y (not calling each by name, just pointing). First officer said let me orient myself with map as I had had head down doing after landing duties. So points to taxiway to the right choice (Y) and says very positively and emphatically that that is the correct taxiway to go down (pointing to Y). Captain proceeds down Y without input from first officer. At end of Y (at F), progress impeded due to rubber stanchions across taxiway and we realize we are on the wrong taxiway, that we are indeed on Y and it is closed. We now have no doubt as to where we are. We had to shut down and get towed in from there (no room to turn around). Contributing factors: captain proceeded without knowing exactly where he was on airport. Captain unaware a closed taxiway was one of the choices he was looking at. Captain assumed tower controller knew of our exact location when she directed us to make next left (or did she say first left -- I am not sure). I don't think this is a reasonable assumption. Captain proceeded without consensus from entire crew. The positiveness and emphasis of so's response (was very reassuring). No rubber stanchions or any markings on the taxiway (Y) at the north end (where we turned onto it) to indicate it was closed (like at the south end). Supplemental information from acn 250818: after completing a VOR/visual approach to runway 13L, the ground controller gave us complex taxi instructions while we were decelerating on the runway. When we were clear of runway 13L (at the end) we taxied on taxiway ya as we attempted to clarify the taxi instructions. The ground controller told us to make the first left. However, at this point we had passed the intersection of ya and zb, and by making the left turn we found ourselves on Y (a closed taxiway). There was, however, a confusing array of stanchions and red lights that we mistook for repair barriers. A more timely set of progressive taxi instruction, and more diligence by all crew members would have prevented this situation. Supplemental information from acn 250819: after landing at jfk from anc, we received taxi instructions (somewhat complex) while still in landing rollout which we had to disregard until off runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR WDB FREIGHTER TAXIES ONTO CLOSED TXWY DURING A NIGHT OP. NON ADHERENCE TO ATC INSTRUCTION.
Narrative: WE LANDED AT JFK ON RWY 13L, ROLLED TO THE END, AND TURNED OFF R, ONTO YA. TWR DIRECTED US TO MAKE FIRST L. HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME, ACFT WAS ALREADY PAST THE POINT TO MAKE A L TURN ONTO ZB. WE WERE FACED WITH A L TURN ONTO Y OR A 270 DEGS R TURN IN ORDER TO GO DOWN ZB. CAPT ASKED CREW WHICH TAXI TO GO DOWN ZB OR Y (NOT CALLING EACH BY NAME, JUST POINTING). FO SAID LET ME ORIENT MYSELF WITH MAP AS I HAD HAD HEAD DOWN DOING AFTER LNDG DUTIES. SO POINTS TO TXWY TO THE R CHOICE (Y) AND SAYS VERY POSITIVELY AND EMPHATICALLY THAT THAT IS THE CORRECT TXWY TO GO DOWN (POINTING TO Y). CAPT PROCEEDS DOWN Y WITHOUT INPUT FROM FO. AT END OF Y (AT F), PROGRESS IMPEDED DUE TO RUBBER STANCHIONS ACROSS TXWY AND WE REALIZE WE ARE ON THE WRONG TXWY, THAT WE ARE INDEED ON Y AND IT IS CLOSED. WE NOW HAVE NO DOUBT AS TO WHERE WE ARE. WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN AND GET TOWED IN FROM THERE (NO ROOM TO TURN AROUND). CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: CAPT PROCEEDED WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE HE WAS ON ARPT. CAPT UNAWARE A CLOSED TXWY WAS ONE OF THE CHOICES HE WAS LOOKING AT. CAPT ASSUMED TWR CTLR KNEW OF OUR EXACT LOCATION WHEN SHE DIRECTED US TO MAKE NEXT L (OR DID SHE SAY FIRST L -- I AM NOT SURE). I DON'T THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION. CAPT PROCEEDED WITHOUT CONSENSUS FROM ENTIRE CREW. THE POSITIVENESS AND EMPHASIS OF SO'S RESPONSE (WAS VERY REASSURING). NO RUBBER STANCHIONS OR ANY MARKINGS ON THE TXWY (Y) AT THE N END (WHERE WE TURNED ONTO IT) TO INDICATE IT WAS CLOSED (LIKE AT THE S END). SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 250818: AFTER COMPLETING A VOR/VISUAL APCH TO RWY 13L, THE GND CTLR GAVE US COMPLEX TAXI INSTRUCTIONS WHILE WE WERE DECELERATING ON THE RWY. WHEN WE WERE CLR OF RWY 13L (AT THE END) WE TAXIED ON TXWY YA AS WE ATTEMPTED TO CLARIFY THE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS. THE GND CTLR TOLD US TO MAKE THE FIRST L. HOWEVER, AT THIS POINT WE HAD PASSED THE INTXN OF YA AND ZB, AND BY MAKING THE L TURN WE FOUND OURSELVES ON Y (A CLOSED TXWY). THERE WAS, HOWEVER, A CONFUSING ARRAY OF STANCHIONS AND RED LIGHTS THAT WE MISTOOK FOR REPAIR BARRIERS. A MORE TIMELY SET OF PROGRESSIVE TAXI INSTRUCTION, AND MORE DILIGENCE BY ALL CREW MEMBERS WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS SIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 250819: AFTER LNDG AT JFK FROM ANC, WE RECEIVED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS (SOMEWHAT COMPLEX) WHILE STILL IN LNDG ROLLOUT WHICH WE HAD TO DISREGARD UNTIL OFF RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.