Speed altitude deviation altitude overshot in climb in large transport FMC type aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	251522
Time
Date	199309
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mco
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mco artcc : zdc
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	251522
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Had 250 KT speed restr in clearance. Passing 10000 ft, captain, who was flying aircraft, started to accelerate. I asked ATC if speed restr was still needed. ATC affirmed and captain pulled nose up to reduce speed. I had called out '11 for 12' just before my call to ATC. At 12000 ft I called out '12000 ft' but aircraft overshot by 500 ft before we returned to level flight. Captain was hand flying with flight director on but did not follow commands. Captain is new to large transport twin from large transport 3 engine. By pulling up nose, captain increased climb rate to greater than 4000 FPM, way too fast for smooth level off. Captain probably not used to extremely high performance of light (168000 pounds) twin large transport. I was talking to ATC during level off, my call could have been delayed until after level off. Also, captain very hesitant to use autoflt, probably because he was flying 3 engine lgts prior. I think new generation aircraft should have program changes to climb at 1000 FPM for last 1000 ft in climb.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SPD ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN CLB IN LGT FMC TYPE ACFT.

Narrative: HAD 250 KT SPD RESTR IN CLRNC. PASSING 10000 FT, CAPT, WHO WAS FLYING ACFT, STARTED TO ACCELERATE. I ASKED ATC IF SPD RESTR WAS STILL NEEDED. ATC AFFIRMED AND CAPT PULLED NOSE UP TO REDUCE SPD. I HAD CALLED OUT '11 FOR 12' JUST BEFORE MY CALL TO ATC. AT 12000 FT I CALLED OUT '12000 FT' BUT ACFT OVERSHOT BY 500 FT BEFORE WE RETURNED TO LEVEL FLT. CAPT WAS HAND FLYING WITH FLT DIRECTOR ON BUT DID NOT FOLLOW COMMANDS. CAPT IS NEW TO LGT TWIN FROM LGT 3 ENG. BY PULLING UP NOSE, CAPT INCREASED CLB RATE TO GREATER THAN 4000 FPM, WAY TOO FAST FOR SMOOTH LEVEL OFF. CAPT PROBABLY NOT USED TO EXTREMELY HIGH PERFORMANCE OF LIGHT (168000 LBS) TWIN LGT. I WAS TALKING TO ATC DURING LEVEL OFF, MY CALL COULD HAVE BEEN DELAYED UNTIL AFTER LEVEL OFF. ALSO, CAPT VERY HESITANT TO USE AUTOFLT, PROBABLY BECAUSE HE WAS FLYING 3 ENG LGTS PRIOR. I THINK NEW GENERATION ACFT SHOULD HAVE PROGRAM CHANGES TO CLB AT 1000 FPM FOR LAST 1000 FT IN CLB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.