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Attributes | |
ACN | 251653 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 251653 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Msp tower is using minimum spacing between aircraft departing and landing on the same runway. The week of aug/xx I had to go around once due to aircraft on the runway. Another time, the departing aircraft lifted off while my aircraft was 100 ft in the air. On aug/tue, my aircraft was in the flare before the departing aircraft was airborne. At no other airport in the continental united states, caribbean, or mexico, have I seen spacing so close, including lga, bos, dtw, ord, and other airports that have aircraft landing and departing on the same runway. I believe the situation at msp is an accident waiting to happen, and I personally will not accept such minimum spacing again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CAPT COMPLAINS ABOUT THE VERY SHORT INTERVAL BTWN LNDG ACFT AND TKOF ACFT AT MSP.
Narrative: MSP TWR IS USING MINIMUM SPACING BTWN ACFT DEPARTING AND LNDG ON THE SAME RWY. THE WK OF AUG/XX I HAD TO GAR ONCE DUE TO ACFT ON THE RWY. ANOTHER TIME, THE DEPARTING ACFT LIFTED OFF WHILE MY ACFT WAS 100 FT IN THE AIR. ON AUG/TUE, MY ACFT WAS IN THE FLARE BEFORE THE DEPARTING ACFT WAS AIRBORNE. AT NO OTHER ARPT IN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES, CARIBBEAN, OR MEXICO, HAVE I SEEN SPACING SO CLOSE, INCLUDING LGA, BOS, DTW, ORD, AND OTHER ARPTS THAT HAVE ACFT LNDG AND DEPARTING ON THE SAME RWY. I BELIEVE THE SIT AT MSP IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN, AND I PERSONALLY WILL NOT ACCEPT SUCH MINIMUM SPACING AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.