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Attributes | |
ACN | 251811 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lrp airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zdc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 251811 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While entering a holding pattern at bucks intersection, ATC advised us to turn to heading 280 degrees. Approximately 1 min later ATC advised us 'radar service terminated.' we immediately questioned this as we were on a heading and were then told to descend to 11000 and continue to hold. As we were not in a hold at this time, we requested instructions and a new estimated further clearance time. We were then handed off to approach control and vectored to phl. On arrival, we were asked to telephone center.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT GOT CONFUSING INSTRUCTIONS WHILE ENTERING A HOLDING PATTERN.
Narrative: WHILE ENTERING A HOLDING PATTERN AT BUCKS INTXN, ATC ADVISED US TO TURN TO HDG 280 DEGS. APPROX 1 MIN LATER ATC ADVISED US 'RADAR SVC TERMINATED.' WE IMMEDIATELY QUESTIONED THIS AS WE WERE ON A HDG AND WERE THEN TOLD TO DSND TO 11000 AND CONTINUE TO HOLD. AS WE WERE NOT IN A HOLD AT THIS TIME, WE REQUESTED INSTRUCTIONS AND A NEW ESTIMATED FURTHER CLRNC TIME. WE WERE THEN HANDED OFF TO APCH CTL AND VECTORED TO PHL. ON ARR, WE WERE ASKED TO TELEPHONE CTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.