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Attributes | |
ACN | 251888 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : har airport : mdt |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mdt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 12600 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 251888 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This event would be commonly described as a 'nuisance' GPWS. We were being vectored in IMC for an ILS approach to runway 13 at mdt (harrisburg international airport). We were on the north side of the localizer, 3-4 NM north of the har VOR, level at 3000 ft, on a southerly heading. We were both well aware of the high terrain in the immediate vicinity -- a ridge line north of the airport running ene to wsw, average elevation, 1800 ft. We were also well aware that 3000 ft is the normal vectoring altitude in this area (mdt is our home base). Just as the controller issued a new vector to intercept the localizer, we got a GPWS 'terrain, pull up' warning. I responded by setting maximum power and initiating a maximum effort climb. At about 3700 ft, the GPWS warning stopped and I leveled off at about 3800 ft. My copilot simultaneously responded to the controller that we were climbing straight ahead due to a GPWS warning and we would need a new vector for the intercept. We subsequently descended back to 3000 ft, got a new vector, intercepted the localizer and GS and completed the approach uneventfully. The controller did not question our altitude excursion, but he commented that to him we appeared well clear of any terrain. (We did have mode C.) we agreed with him but clearly stated that we were required to respond to the GPWS. There seems to be some technology generated pilot/controller friction here (similar to TCASII RA altitude changes) when controllers don't 'see' the conditions that sometimes trip the warning devices.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT CLBS ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT IN RESPONSE TO A GPWS ALARM.
Narrative: THIS EVENT WOULD BE COMMONLY DESCRIBED AS A 'NUISANCE' GPWS. WE WERE BEING VECTORED IN IMC FOR AN ILS APCH TO RWY 13 AT MDT (HARRISBURG INTL ARPT). WE WERE ON THE N SIDE OF THE LOC, 3-4 NM N OF THE HAR VOR, LEVEL AT 3000 FT, ON A SOUTHERLY HDG. WE WERE BOTH WELL AWARE OF THE HIGH TERRAIN IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY -- A RIDGE LINE N OF THE ARPT RUNNING ENE TO WSW, AVERAGE ELEVATION, 1800 FT. WE WERE ALSO WELL AWARE THAT 3000 FT IS THE NORMAL VECTORING ALT IN THIS AREA (MDT IS OUR HOME BASE). JUST AS THE CTLR ISSUED A NEW VECTOR TO INTERCEPT THE LOC, WE GOT A GPWS 'TERRAIN, PULL UP' WARNING. I RESPONDED BY SETTING MAX PWR AND INITIATING A MAX EFFORT CLB. AT ABOUT 3700 FT, THE GPWS WARNING STOPPED AND I LEVELED OFF AT ABOUT 3800 FT. MY COPLT SIMULTANEOUSLY RESPONDED TO THE CTLR THAT WE WERE CLBING STRAIGHT AHEAD DUE TO A GPWS WARNING AND WE WOULD NEED A NEW VECTOR FOR THE INTERCEPT. WE SUBSEQUENTLY DSNDED BACK TO 3000 FT, GOT A NEW VECTOR, INTERCEPTED THE LOC AND GS AND COMPLETED THE APCH UNEVENTFULLY. THE CTLR DID NOT QUESTION OUR ALT EXCURSION, BUT HE COMMENTED THAT TO HIM WE APPEARED WELL CLR OF ANY TERRAIN. (WE DID HAVE MODE C.) WE AGREED WITH HIM BUT CLRLY STATED THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO THE GPWS. THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME TECHNOLOGY GENERATED PLT/CTLR FRICTION HERE (SIMILAR TO TCASII RA ALT CHANGES) WHEN CTLRS DON'T 'SEE' THE CONDITIONS THAT SOMETIMES TRIP THE WARNING DEVICES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.