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First officer ATCT local controller insinuates an unauthorized runway entry, runway incursion in flight crew deviation and non adherence to ATC clearance instruction.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 254952 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199310 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mad |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 22500 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 254952 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 270 |
| ASRS Report | 254414 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft cleared to the holding point for runway 36 by ground control. Shortly afterward, ground switched us to tower. Tower cleared us to 'line up and wait.' we told them we had about 1 min left on our safety video. Tower replied, advise when ready, but they did not cancel the 'line up and wait' nor say hold short, etc. We positioned and waited. A few mins later the tower said we were not cleared onto the runway. I offered to clear the runway. They said never mind and cleared me for takeoff. Runway 36 was used for takeoff. Runway 33 was used for landing so no conflict arose. However, standard phraseology can't be overstressed. Once cleared to 'line up and wait' that clearance should have been cancelled. With foreign accents, standard terminology must be followed. In spain it is particularly important to use standard words, not their own backward translation. Of all the different airspaces I have operated in during the past 3 yrs, spain is by far the most difficult. Germany is by far the best. It is almost like the united states.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO ATCT LCL CTLR INSINUATES AN UNAUTH RWY ENTRY, RWY INCURSION IN FLC DEV AND NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC INSTRUCTION.
Narrative: ACFT CLRED TO THE HOLDING POINT FOR RWY 36 BY GND CTL. SHORTLY AFTERWARD, GND SWITCHED US TO TWR. TWR CLRED US TO 'LINE UP AND WAIT.' WE TOLD THEM WE HAD ABOUT 1 MIN LEFT ON OUR SAFETY VIDEO. TWR REPLIED, ADVISE WHEN READY, BUT THEY DID NOT CANCEL THE 'LINE UP AND WAIT' NOR SAY HOLD SHORT, ETC. WE POSITIONED AND WAITED. A FEW MINS LATER THE TWR SAID WE WERE NOT CLRED ONTO THE RWY. I OFFERED TO CLR THE RWY. THEY SAID NEVER MIND AND CLRED ME FOR TKOF. RWY 36 WAS USED FOR TKOF. RWY 33 WAS USED FOR LNDG SO NO CONFLICT AROSE. HOWEVER, STANDARD PHRASEOLOGY CAN'T BE OVERSTRESSED. ONCE CLRED TO 'LINE UP AND WAIT' THAT CLRNC SHOULD HAVE BEEN CANCELLED. WITH FOREIGN ACCENTS, STANDARD TERMINOLOGY MUST BE FOLLOWED. IN SPAIN IT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO USE STANDARD WORDS, NOT THEIR OWN BACKWARD TRANSLATION. OF ALL THE DIFFERENT AIRSPACES I HAVE OPERATED IN DURING THE PAST 3 YRS, SPAIN IS BY FAR THE MOST DIFFICULT. GERMANY IS BY FAR THE BEST. IT IS ALMOST LIKE THE UNITED STATES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.