An air carrier large transport had a navigation error with a glass cockpit aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	256167
Time
Date	199311
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : tnp
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 8425 flight time type : 125
ASRS Report	256167
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

In sum: an air carrier large transport 2 person crew aircraft was approaching lax from phx. This was a very modern aircraft with a 'glass cockpit.' the captain is the reporter. The captain was off the air obtaining ATIS and doing landing data when the first officer received a clearance to navigation on J-10. The first officer used the radial northeast from lax vice the radial northeast tnp as his navigation reference. When the captain came back on to the frequency, he found that the ARTCC was issuing a vector to get on to J-10 southwest of tnp. R-2510 was to the crew's right, but they were in no danger of entering the restr area. The reporting captain goes on at great length to analyze 'why' and 'how' this happened, citing the usual problems of operating glass cockpit aircraft. Heads down in high usage airspace. One pilot out of the loop increasing the workload for the other pilot. The bad habit of not having charts readily available for route changes, etc. The reporter also goes on to complain about his air carrier's scheduling crews at the wrong time of the day and the difficulty of getting rest on layovers and how rest preparation is especially hard for crew persons on reserve.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR LGT HAD A NAV ERROR WITH A GLASS COCKPIT ACFT.

Narrative: IN SUM: AN ACR LGT 2 PERSON CREW ACFT WAS APCHING LAX FROM PHX. THIS WAS A VERY MODERN ACFT WITH A 'GLASS COCKPIT.' THE CAPT IS THE RPTR. THE CAPT WAS OFF THE AIR OBTAINING ATIS AND DOING LNDG DATA WHEN THE FO RECEIVED A CLRNC TO NAV ON J-10. THE FO USED THE RADIAL NE FROM LAX VICE THE RADIAL NE TNP AS HIS NAV REF. WHEN THE CAPT CAME BACK ON TO THE FREQ, HE FOUND THAT THE ARTCC WAS ISSUING A VECTOR TO GET ON TO J-10 SW OF TNP. R-2510 WAS TO THE CREW'S R, BUT THEY WERE IN NO DANGER OF ENTERING THE RESTR AREA. THE RPTING CAPT GOES ON AT GREAT LENGTH TO ANALYZE 'WHY' AND 'HOW' THIS HAPPENED, CITING THE USUAL PROBS OF OPERATING GLASS COCKPIT ACFT. HEADS DOWN IN HIGH USAGE AIRSPACE. ONE PLT OUT OF THE LOOP INCREASING THE WORKLOAD FOR THE OTHER PLT. THE BAD HABIT OF NOT HAVING CHARTS READILY AVAILABLE FOR RTE CHANGES, ETC. THE RPTR ALSO GOES ON TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HIS ACR'S SCHEDULING CREWS AT THE WRONG TIME OF THE DAY AND THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING REST ON LAYOVERS AND HOW REST PREPARATION IS ESPECIALLY HARD FOR CREW PERSONS ON RESERVE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.