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Airport design taxiway runway makes it impossible for an aircraft to hold on bravo between runways 19 and 24 without transgressing on one of them.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 256495 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199311 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 256495 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
At the teb airport, the hold line on taxiway B between runways 19/24 is set up such that when asked to clear one runway, the hold line is actually for the other runway. If you cross this line, like we would normally expect to do, you have actually transgressed the other runway. See my crude diagram.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARPT DESIGN TXWY RWY MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN ACFT TO HOLD ON BRAVO BTWN RWYS 19 AND 24 WITHOUT TRANSGRESSING ON ONE OF THEM.
Narrative: AT THE TEB ARPT, THE HOLD LINE ON TXWY B BTWN RWYS 19/24 IS SET UP SUCH THAT WHEN ASKED TO CLR ONE RWY, THE HOLD LINE IS ACTUALLY FOR THE OTHER RWY. IF YOU CROSS THIS LINE, LIKE WE WOULD NORMALLY EXPECT TO DO, YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TRANSGRESSED THE OTHER RWY. SEE MY CRUDE DIAGRAM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.