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Attributes | |
ACN | 256917 |
Time | |
Date | 199311 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ewr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 256917 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was flying approach at 17 KTS assigned. Was following aircraft about 4 mi ahead. Watching aircraft on TCASII noticed we were overtaking. Started slowing 3 mi before OM to maintain separation. Tower asked our airspeed. When we said we started to slow, we were reminded we were to hold 170 KTS to marker. Looking at this situation, we should have queried tower as to our separation opposed to trying to maintain our own with TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT GOT CAUGHT SPACING ITSELF WITH TCASII IN THE LNDG PATTERN.
Narrative: WAS FLYING APCH AT 17 KTS ASSIGNED. WAS FOLLOWING ACFT ABOUT 4 MI AHEAD. WATCHING ACFT ON TCASII NOTICED WE WERE OVERTAKING. STARTED SLOWING 3 MI BEFORE OM TO MAINTAIN SEPARATION. TWR ASKED OUR AIRSPD. WHEN WE SAID WE STARTED TO SLOW, WE WERE REMINDED WE WERE TO HOLD 170 KTS TO MARKER. LOOKING AT THIS SIT, WE SHOULD HAVE QUERIED TWR AS TO OUR SEPARATION OPPOSED TO TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR OWN WITH TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.