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Attributes | |
ACN | 256929 |
Time | |
Date | 199311 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rod |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : day |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 256929 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight of 3 fgt aircraft climbing slightly passed in front of my aircraft at 8000 ft MSL, altimeter 30.23. Called dayton controller who claimed he had advised of the traffic. In fact, no advisory was received. Controller was repeatedly stepped on by others transmitting. Slight wake turbulence was encountered as the fgts passed east to west in front of my small aircraft. No time for maneuvers. Did not see them as they came from below my right wing. Controller claimed fgts 'saw me' but no conversation was heard on the frequency (127.65). A slightly better separation than the 100 ft I was provided would have been preferable. At a minimum, the fgts should have been vectored behind me. In my view my aircraft had the right of way in level flight on an instrument clearance and this occurrence was inexcusable.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR SMA HAS NMAC WITH FLT OF 3 FGTS.
Narrative: FLT OF 3 FGT ACFT CLBING SLIGHTLY PASSED IN FRONT OF MY ACFT AT 8000 FT MSL, ALTIMETER 30.23. CALLED DAYTON CTLR WHO CLAIMED HE HAD ADVISED OF THE TFC. IN FACT, NO ADVISORY WAS RECEIVED. CTLR WAS REPEATEDLY STEPPED ON BY OTHERS XMITTING. SLIGHT WAKE TURB WAS ENCOUNTERED AS THE FGTS PASSED E TO W IN FRONT OF MY SMA. NO TIME FOR MANEUVERS. DID NOT SEE THEM AS THEY CAME FROM BELOW MY R WING. CTLR CLAIMED FGTS 'SAW ME' BUT NO CONVERSATION WAS HEARD ON THE FREQ (127.65). A SLIGHTLY BETTER SEPARATION THAN THE 100 FT I WAS PROVIDED WOULD HAVE BEEN PREFERABLE. AT A MINIMUM, THE FGTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN VECTORED BEHIND ME. IN MY VIEW MY ACFT HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY IN LEVEL FLT ON AN INST CLRNC AND THIS OCCURRENCE WAS INEXCUSABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.