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Small aircraft practicing engine out lndgs makes a spiral approach which distresses temporary tower controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 259434 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199312 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 79j |
| State Reference | AL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 2800 agl bound upper : 2800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : 79j |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 13400 flight time type : 36 |
| ASRS Report | 259434 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
VFR training flight andalusia (normally non-tower operations) had a temporary control tower (class D airspace). At about 2800 ft AGL, asked for a forced landing practice procedure. Student did not make runway and went around. During approach, the aircraft was flown in a 1 1/2 turn spiral -- a normal procedure. We asked permission to do another simulated engine out and it was approved. Again, we spiraled to a low approach and went around and asked to clear the class D airspace. We were told to call 'clear of the area' and to '...next time, fly a normal downwind pattern.' I responded that we had flown a 'normal forced landing type pattern' per our request. There was no other traffic in the area. At no time had we done anything reckless or careless. Tower (probably set up for army helicopters) should know that a forced landing from an overhead position would involve a spiral and not a standard pattern. The requests clearly stated 'practice force landing' and 'simulated engine out.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PRACTICING ENG OUT LNDGS MAKES A SPIRAL APCH WHICH DISTRESSES TEMPORARY TWR CTLR.
Narrative: VFR TRAINING FLT ANDALUSIA (NORMALLY NON-TWR OPS) HAD A TEMPORARY CTL TWR (CLASS D AIRSPACE). AT ABOUT 2800 FT AGL, ASKED FOR A FORCED LNDG PRACTICE PROC. STUDENT DID NOT MAKE RWY AND WENT AROUND. DURING APCH, THE ACFT WAS FLOWN IN A 1 1/2 TURN SPIRAL -- A NORMAL PROC. WE ASKED PERMISSION TO DO ANOTHER SIMULATED ENG OUT AND IT WAS APPROVED. AGAIN, WE SPIRALED TO A LOW APCH AND WENT AROUND AND ASKED TO CLR THE CLASS D AIRSPACE. WE WERE TOLD TO CALL 'CLR OF THE AREA' AND TO '...NEXT TIME, FLY A NORMAL DOWNWIND PATTERN.' I RESPONDED THAT WE HAD FLOWN A 'NORMAL FORCED LNDG TYPE PATTERN' PER OUR REQUEST. THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC IN THE AREA. AT NO TIME HAD WE DONE ANYTHING RECKLESS OR CARELESS. TWR (PROBABLY SET UP FOR ARMY HELIS) SHOULD KNOW THAT A FORCED LNDG FROM AN OVERHEAD POS WOULD INVOLVE A SPIRAL AND NOT A STANDARD PATTERN. THE REQUESTS CLRLY STATED 'PRACTICE FORCE LNDG' AND 'SIMULATED ENG OUT.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.