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Attributes | |
ACN | 260432 |
Time | |
Date | 199401 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mem |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lns |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 190 |
ASRS Report | 260432 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 260383 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We intercepted final about 5 mi outside the final approach fix and proceeded to fly a normal approach using the FMS/ILS and standard air carrier procedures. An approach check was re-accomplished to identify the runway 36R localizer and confirm the new minimums for that approach. The first officer flew the fcp panel until we broke out of the WX after crossing the final approach fix. We checked in with mem tower and were cleared to land on 36R. At about 500 ft AGL, the copilot disconnected the autoplt, and began to hand-fly the aircraft, with the autothrottles still connected. Since the aircraft had been fully configured for landing earlier, the autoplt had it trimmed up and I did not detect major trim changes being input by the copilot, nor did the 'stabilizer motion' alert sound after the autoplt was disconnected. The approach was flown on course and glide path. Later analysis of the flight data recorder did not show any discernible difference between the autoplt and copilot flying. A well stabilized power on approach was flown down to about 100 ft AGL. As the runway threshold lights were passing under the nose, the aircraft entered into a series of abrupt and violent roll excursions which I estimate to be in the range of 15-20 degrees of bank. There were 3 or 4 of these roll reversals, which ended as abruptly as they began. At this point, I would estimate the aircraft altitude at about 15 ft, with the nose slightly higher than normal flare attitude. The aircraft seemed to hang there for a second, and then the nose came down and we touched down very hard in what felt like a flat, 3- point touchdown. The nose rose up in the air, and then settled back to the runway. I took control of the aircraft immediately after touchdown because I anticipated blown tires or steering problems, but there were none. I slowed the aircraft and taxied to the ramp. The entire episode -- violent rolls, ending of the roll motions prior to landing, and then the hard landing lasted about 3-4 seconds. It seemed to me that all this started at about the point where a flare would be initiated. Given the short, abrupt, and violent nature of these gyrations I didn't have a chance to call for a go around, much less assume control and accomplish one. Later analysis of the flight data recorder confirms my recollection of this incident. The data trace shows abrupt and rapid roll excursions which end as suddenly as they begin, followed by a second or so of level flight and then a g-load spike which occurs on the hard touchdown. Given the stabilized approach flown by the first officer, I would discount the probability of pilot induced oscillations, at least with the beginning of the roll excursions. Furthermore, the sudden onset and termination of the roll motions tells me that the roll inputs of the first officer were in reaction to external forces and succeeded in damping them out prior to touchdown. The tower winds at the time were northwesterly at 7 KTS, less than reported on ATIS. We landed 1 min behind an large transport and our landing gross weight was at 429000 pounds, well below the maximum of 471000 pounds for the widebody transport. I would speculate that the upwind tip vortex from the large transport would drift over the runway threshold in that amount of time, which would cause at least the initial roll motion at precisely the time when our aircraft was most vulnerable. Supplemental information from acn 260383: winds were ATIS reported at 290 degrees at 12 KTS. Parallel approachs were in progress. The profile and parameters of the approach were textbook. The autoplt was disconnected above the decision ht in a trimmed stable condition. In the area below 100 ft radar altitude we encountered turbulence and an attendant roll to the right. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the closest preceding aircraft was an large transport who landed 3 mins 50 seconds earlier. No known high power runups in area. Reporter said the roll did not feel like wake turbulence -- its onset was sudden without the slight ripple that is felt momentarily before most wake turbulence encounters. The aircraft was loaded at the maximum forward cg limit. The yaw damper had been worked on in anc and the fdr showed some sort of upper rudder input at about the time of the incident. Fdr readout showed the maximum bank was about 7.5 degrees and the touchdown was at 700 FPM and 2.8 G's. A bulkhead in the nosewheel area was buckled but not so seriously that its replacement could not wait until the next C check. The aircraft landed on the left main gear first, bounced and then landed flat on all 3 gear simultaneously.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB FREIGHTER EITHER ENCOUNTERED WAKE TURB OR A CTL ANOMALY CAUSED WING ROLL FOLLOWED BY A HARD LNDG.
Narrative: WE INTERCEPTED FINAL ABOUT 5 MI OUTSIDE THE FINAL APCH FIX AND PROCEEDED TO FLY A NORMAL APCH USING THE FMS/ILS AND STANDARD ACR PROCS. AN APCH CHK WAS RE-ACCOMPLISHED TO IDENT THE RWY 36R LOC AND CONFIRM THE NEW MINIMUMS FOR THAT APCH. THE FO FLEW THE FCP PANEL UNTIL WE BROKE OUT OF THE WX AFTER XING THE FINAL APCH FIX. WE CHKED IN WITH MEM TWR AND WERE CLRED TO LAND ON 36R. AT ABOUT 500 FT AGL, THE COPLT DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, AND BEGAN TO HAND-FLY THE ACFT, WITH THE AUTOTHROTTLES STILL CONNECTED. SINCE THE ACFT HAD BEEN FULLY CONFIGURED FOR LNDG EARLIER, THE AUTOPLT HAD IT TRIMMED UP AND I DID NOT DETECT MAJOR TRIM CHANGES BEING INPUT BY THE COPLT, NOR DID THE 'STABILIZER MOTION' ALERT SOUND AFTER THE AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED. THE APCH WAS FLOWN ON COURSE AND GLIDE PATH. LATER ANALYSIS OF THE FLT DATA RECORDER DID NOT SHOW ANY DISCERNIBLE DIFFERENCE BTWN THE AUTOPLT AND COPLT FLYING. A WELL STABILIZED PWR ON APCH WAS FLOWN DOWN TO ABOUT 100 FT AGL. AS THE RWY THRESHOLD LIGHTS WERE PASSING UNDER THE NOSE, THE ACFT ENTERED INTO A SERIES OF ABRUPT AND VIOLENT ROLL EXCURSIONS WHICH I ESTIMATE TO BE IN THE RANGE OF 15-20 DEGS OF BANK. THERE WERE 3 OR 4 OF THESE ROLL REVERSALS, WHICH ENDED AS ABRUPTLY AS THEY BEGAN. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ESTIMATE THE ACFT ALT AT ABOUT 15 FT, WITH THE NOSE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN NORMAL FLARE ATTITUDE. THE ACFT SEEMED TO HANG THERE FOR A SECOND, AND THEN THE NOSE CAME DOWN AND WE TOUCHED DOWN VERY HARD IN WHAT FELT LIKE A FLAT, 3- POINT TOUCHDOWN. THE NOSE ROSE UP IN THE AIR, AND THEN SETTLED BACK TO THE RWY. I TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT IMMEDIATELY AFTER TOUCHDOWN BECAUSE I ANTICIPATED BLOWN TIRES OR STEERING PROBS, BUT THERE WERE NONE. I SLOWED THE ACFT AND TAXIED TO THE RAMP. THE ENTIRE EPISODE -- VIOLENT ROLLS, ENDING OF THE ROLL MOTIONS PRIOR TO LNDG, AND THEN THE HARD LNDG LASTED ABOUT 3-4 SECONDS. IT SEEMED TO ME THAT ALL THIS STARTED AT ABOUT THE POINT WHERE A FLARE WOULD BE INITIATED. GIVEN THE SHORT, ABRUPT, AND VIOLENT NATURE OF THESE GYRATIONS I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO CALL FOR A GAR, MUCH LESS ASSUME CTL AND ACCOMPLISH ONE. LATER ANALYSIS OF THE FLT DATA RECORDER CONFIRMS MY RECOLLECTION OF THIS INCIDENT. THE DATA TRACE SHOWS ABRUPT AND RAPID ROLL EXCURSIONS WHICH END AS SUDDENLY AS THEY BEGIN, FOLLOWED BY A SECOND OR SO OF LEVEL FLT AND THEN A G-LOAD SPIKE WHICH OCCURS ON THE HARD TOUCHDOWN. GIVEN THE STABILIZED APCH FLOWN BY THE FO, I WOULD DISCOUNT THE PROBABILITY OF PLT INDUCED OSCILLATIONS, AT LEAST WITH THE BEGINNING OF THE ROLL EXCURSIONS. FURTHERMORE, THE SUDDEN ONSET AND TERMINATION OF THE ROLL MOTIONS TELLS ME THAT THE ROLL INPUTS OF THE FO WERE IN REACTION TO EXTERNAL FORCES AND SUCCEEDED IN DAMPING THEM OUT PRIOR TO TOUCHDOWN. THE TWR WINDS AT THE TIME WERE NORTHWESTERLY AT 7 KTS, LESS THAN RPTED ON ATIS. WE LANDED 1 MIN BEHIND AN LGT AND OUR LNDG GROSS WT WAS AT 429000 LBS, WELL BELOW THE MAX OF 471000 LBS FOR THE WDB. I WOULD SPECULATE THAT THE UPWIND TIP VORTEX FROM THE LGT WOULD DRIFT OVER THE RWY THRESHOLD IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, WHICH WOULD CAUSE AT LEAST THE INITIAL ROLL MOTION AT PRECISELY THE TIME WHEN OUR ACFT WAS MOST VULNERABLE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 260383: WINDS WERE ATIS RPTED AT 290 DEGS AT 12 KTS. PARALLEL APCHS WERE IN PROGRESS. THE PROFILE AND PARAMETERS OF THE APCH WERE TEXTBOOK. THE AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED ABOVE THE DECISION HT IN A TRIMMED STABLE CONDITION. IN THE AREA BELOW 100 FT RADAR ALT WE ENCOUNTERED TURB AND AN ATTENDANT ROLL TO THE R. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE CLOSEST PRECEDING ACFT WAS AN LGT WHO LANDED 3 MINS 50 SECONDS EARLIER. NO KNOWN HIGH PWR RUNUPS IN AREA. RPTR SAID THE ROLL DID NOT FEEL LIKE WAKE TURB -- ITS ONSET WAS SUDDEN WITHOUT THE SLIGHT RIPPLE THAT IS FELT MOMENTARILY BEFORE MOST WAKE TURB ENCOUNTERS. THE ACFT WAS LOADED AT THE MAX FORWARD CG LIMIT. THE YAW DAMPER HAD BEEN WORKED ON IN ANC AND THE FDR SHOWED SOME SORT OF UPPER RUDDER INPUT AT ABOUT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT. FDR READOUT SHOWED THE MAX BANK WAS ABOUT 7.5 DEGS AND THE TOUCHDOWN WAS AT 700 FPM AND 2.8 G'S. A BULKHEAD IN THE NOSEWHEEL AREA WAS BUCKLED BUT NOT SO SERIOUSLY THAT ITS REPLACEMENT COULD NOT WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT C CHK. THE ACFT LANDED ON THE L MAIN GEAR FIRST, BOUNCED AND THEN LANDED FLAT ON ALL 3 GEAR SIMULTANEOUSLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.