Small aircraft avoiding the class B airspace caused level off of jet on arrival.

Attributes
ACN	261332
Time
Date	199401
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 225 flight time type : 60
ASRS Report	261332
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	other other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

I received a class C clearance out of john wayne VFR. I proceeded on vectors until they gave me my own navigation. They couldn't hand me off to coast approach but gave me the frequency. I turned in lax VOR on my DME and my GPS and proceeded to fly outside the 25 DME limit of the los angeles class B. I was at 25.7 when the controller told an arrival jet of my traffic. I hadn't been able to cut in and talk to him previously, but I spoke up and told him I was the traffic. I told him I had the jet in sight. He told me I was in class B without a clearance and vectored me away from traffic, told me I was at 24 mi. I never got closer than 25.7 on both my DME and GPS. I apologized for the problem and resumed my own navigation. I never got close to the jet but the controller had to level him off above me until he turned me southeast. Since I wasn't talking to him because he was so busy I never knew there was a problem.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA AVOIDING THE CLASS B AIRSPACE CAUSED LEVEL OFF OF JET ON ARR.

Narrative: I RECEIVED A CLASS C CLRNC OUT OF JOHN WAYNE VFR. I PROCEEDED ON VECTORS UNTIL THEY GAVE ME MY OWN NAV. THEY COULDN'T HAND ME OFF TO COAST APCH BUT GAVE ME THE FREQ. I TURNED IN LAX VOR ON MY DME AND MY GPS AND PROCEEDED TO FLY OUTSIDE THE 25 DME LIMIT OF THE LOS ANGELES CLASS B. I WAS AT 25.7 WHEN THE CTLR TOLD AN ARR JET OF MY TFC. I HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO CUT IN AND TALK TO HIM PREVIOUSLY, BUT I SPOKE UP AND TOLD HIM I WAS THE TFC. I TOLD HIM I HAD THE JET IN SIGHT. HE TOLD ME I WAS IN CLASS B WITHOUT A CLRNC AND VECTORED ME AWAY FROM TFC, TOLD ME I WAS AT 24 MI. I NEVER GOT CLOSER THAN 25.7 ON BOTH MY DME AND GPS. I APOLOGIZED FOR THE PROB AND RESUMED MY OWN NAV. I NEVER GOT CLOSE TO THE JET BUT THE CTLR HAD TO LEVEL HIM OFF ABOVE ME UNTIL HE TURNED ME SE. SINCE I WASN'T TALKING TO HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SO BUSY I NEVER KNEW THERE WAS A PROB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.