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Attributes | |
ACN | 262104 |
Time | |
Date | 199401 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mol |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 262104 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route from dallas to lga flight had been cleared on flight plan to lga via the nanci 5 arrival. Neither the pilot nor the copilot had in their manuals the nanci 5 arrival, or any previous nanci arrival. I advised wash center that we did not have the arrival. Center asked another flight to read us the arrival, which he did - and we copied the arrival routing including radials and DME fixes. Center asked if we had the routing now. We acknowledged yes and center cleared us to lga via the nanci 5 arrival. Subsequent handoff to ny center was smooth and no problem occurred during the arrival and approach to lga. A rare case of both pilots mishandling a revision. Later investigation showed that revision was done all correctly except for the omission of this particular page. In this case, full disclosure early to washington center rather than waiting to get to ny center saved all a lot of trouble.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DOES NOT HAVE ARR PAGES IN MANUALS. RECEIVED PROC FROM ANOTHER FLT.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM DALLAS TO LGA FLT HAD BEEN CLRED ON FLT PLAN TO LGA VIA THE NANCI 5 ARR. NEITHER THE PLT NOR THE COPLT HAD IN THEIR MANUALS THE NANCI 5 ARR, OR ANY PREVIOUS NANCI ARR. I ADVISED WASH CTR THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE ARR. CTR ASKED ANOTHER FLT TO READ US THE ARR, WHICH HE DID - AND WE COPIED THE ARR ROUTING INCLUDING RADIALS AND DME FIXES. CTR ASKED IF WE HAD THE ROUTING NOW. WE ACKNOWLEDGED YES AND CTR CLRED US TO LGA VIA THE NANCI 5 ARR. SUBSEQUENT HDOF TO NY CTR WAS SMOOTH AND NO PROB OCCURRED DURING THE ARR AND APCH TO LGA. A RARE CASE OF BOTH PLTS MISHANDLING A REVISION. LATER INVESTIGATION SHOWED THAT REVISION WAS DONE ALL CORRECTLY EXCEPT FOR THE OMISSION OF THIS PARTICULAR PAGE. IN THIS CASE, FULL DISCLOSURE EARLY TO WASHINGTON CTR RATHER THAN WAITING TO GET TO NY CTR SAVED ALL A LOT OF TROUBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.