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Attributes | |
ACN | 262637 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 262637 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On flight from mry to lax we entered clouds descending through 31500 ft, propeller deice was turned on. After about 5 mins it failed on timer #1. Time #2 was turned on, it failed after about 5 mins also. Arriving in lax I briefed mechanic on problem, and said I would go call it in to maintenance control mechanic stated he 'would write up the problem and work on it.' after using restroom and calling maintenance control, I started back up to airplane, and mechanic met me 1/2 way there. He stated the FAA had ramped the airplane and had been upset because he had worked on airplane before writing up the discrepancy. When I arrived at the aircraft the inspector didn't greet me but immediately asked for identify, license, and medical (which were presented). He then asked why I hadn't written up the aircraft yet and I explained that after 1 1/2 hour flight I needed to use the restroom, and that per our company operations manual I had gone downstairs to notify maintenance control. Also, since I had notified aircraft mechanic of problem it was his responsibility to ensure the discrepancy was written up, prior to working on the aircraft. When the FAA inspector was finished looking at my license and had no more to say, I went in aircraft and checked the can, and at that time the mechanic had already written up and signed off the discrepancy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LTT RAMP CHKED BY ACI, PIC FOUND DEFICIENT IN THAT HE FAILED TO ENTER ACFT EQUIP PROB MALFUNCTION IN LOGBOOK PRIOR TO EXITING ACFT AT RAMP.
Narrative: ON FLT FROM MRY TO LAX WE ENTERED CLOUDS DSNDING THROUGH 31500 FT, PROP DEICE WAS TURNED ON. AFTER ABOUT 5 MINS IT FAILED ON TIMER #1. TIME #2 WAS TURNED ON, IT FAILED AFTER ABOUT 5 MINS ALSO. ARRIVING IN LAX I BRIEFED MECH ON PROB, AND SAID I WOULD GO CALL IT IN TO MAINT CTL MECH STATED HE 'WOULD WRITE UP THE PROB AND WORK ON IT.' AFTER USING RESTROOM AND CALLING MAINT CTL, I STARTED BACK UP TO AIRPLANE, AND MECH MET ME 1/2 WAY THERE. HE STATED THE FAA HAD RAMPED THE AIRPLANE AND HAD BEEN UPSET BECAUSE HE HAD WORKED ON AIRPLANE BEFORE WRITING UP THE DISCREPANCY. WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE ACFT THE INSPECTOR DIDN'T GREET ME BUT IMMEDIATELY ASKED FOR IDENT, LICENSE, AND MEDICAL (WHICH WERE PRESENTED). HE THEN ASKED WHY I HADN'T WRITTEN UP THE ACFT YET AND I EXPLAINED THAT AFTER 1 1/2 HR FLT I NEEDED TO USE THE RESTROOM, AND THAT PER OUR COMPANY OPS MANUAL I HAD GONE DOWNSTAIRS TO NOTIFY MAINT CTL. ALSO, SINCE I HAD NOTIFIED ACFT MECH OF PROB IT WAS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THE DISCREPANCY WAS WRITTEN UP, PRIOR TO WORKING ON THE ACFT. WHEN THE FAA INSPECTOR WAS FINISHED LOOKING AT MY LICENSE AND HAD NO MORE TO SAY, I WENT IN ACFT AND CHKED THE CAN, AND AT THAT TIME THE MECH HAD ALREADY WRITTEN UP AND SIGNED OFF THE DISCREPANCY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.