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Air carrier X non adherence to NOTAM, ATC clearance taxi on closed taxiway. Pilot deviation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 262714 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199401 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : roc |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : cps |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 262714 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
County declared braking action nil -- closed airport for runway sanding. When they opened the airport we landed #3. Because of xmissions between tower and preceding aircraft (not because of tower advising us) we could tell he needed more time to clear runway (went to end) so we slowed considerably, very slow in clearing. Landed -- found braking action fair to poor -- slowed 2/3 way down runway to slow taxi and committed to high speed taxiway at a crawl. Tower advised for first time that txwys prior to end of runway closed. We asked if the reason was because they had not been sanded -- and that we wanted to use that high speed. Tower reply was that we could taxi on it 'at our own risk,' which we did. Our company regulations only close runways and txwys for nil braking action reported by our company pilots. Problem: 1. Lack of forewarning by tower to closed condition on high speed taxiway 2. Lack of tower instruction to slow because of extra time needed by landing aircraft ahead of us. 3. Lack of tower knowledge of real conditions. This could have jeopardized aircraft behind us if we had continued to end of runway(turning back on runway time to get to end. Fact: end was slicker than high speed we used - we reported barking action fair on that taxiway -- problems associated with the following aircraft doing gars in freezing rain because of lack of ATC preparation) 4. ATC use of county vehicles for condition reports vs pilot reports of actual conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X NON ADHERENCE TO NOTAM, ATC CLRNC TAXI ON CLOSED TXWY. PLTDEV.
Narrative: COUNTY DECLARED BRAKING ACTION NIL -- CLOSED ARPT FOR RWY SANDING. WHEN THEY OPENED THE ARPT WE LANDED #3. BECAUSE OF XMISSIONS BTWN TWR AND PRECEDING ACFT (NOT BECAUSE OF TWR ADVISING US) WE COULD TELL HE NEEDED MORE TIME TO CLR RWY (WENT TO END) SO WE SLOWED CONSIDERABLY, VERY SLOW IN CLRING. LANDED -- FOUND BRAKING ACTION FAIR TO POOR -- SLOWED 2/3 WAY DOWN RWY TO SLOW TAXI AND COMMITTED TO HIGH SPD TXWY AT A CRAWL. TWR ADVISED FOR FIRST TIME THAT TXWYS PRIOR TO END OF RWY CLOSED. WE ASKED IF THE REASON WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT BEEN SANDED -- AND THAT WE WANTED TO USE THAT HIGH SPEED. TWR REPLY WAS THAT WE COULD TAXI ON IT 'AT OUR OWN RISK,' WHICH WE DID. OUR COMPANY REGS ONLY CLOSE RWYS AND TXWYS FOR NIL BRAKING ACTION RPTED BY OUR COMPANY PLTS. PROB: 1. LACK OF FOREWARNING BY TWR TO CLOSED CONDITION ON HIGH SPD TXWY 2. LACK OF TWR INSTRUCTION TO SLOW BECAUSE OF EXTRA TIME NEEDED BY LNDG ACFT AHEAD OF US. 3. LACK OF TWR KNOWLEDGE OF REAL CONDITIONS. THIS COULD HAVE JEOPARDIZED ACFT BEHIND US IF WE HAD CONTINUED TO END OF RWY(TURNING BACK ON RWY TIME TO GET TO END. FACT: END WAS SLICKER THAN HIGH SPD WE USED - WE RPTED BARKING ACTION FAIR ON THAT TXWY -- PROBS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOLLOWING ACFT DOING GARS IN FREEZING RAIN BECAUSE OF LACK OF ATC PREPARATION) 4. ATC USE OF COUNTY VEHICLES FOR CONDITION RPTS VS PLT REPORTS OF ACTUAL CONDITIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.