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Attributes | |
ACN | 263312 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iwa |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : phx |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 263312 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
We were cleared the arlin arrival to phx. Arlin is 52 west of the wilke VOR 256 degree radial. We were cleared to be at arlin at 11000 ft (normal clearance). There is also a restriction to be at 250K but it is not displayed on the arrival but rather in the notes. I am quite aware of the 250K restriction but my brand new copilot missed it. I was on the radio calling 'in range' to my operations. The copilot was flying (his leg) and hit arlin at 11000/300K. When I got off the radio I noted the 300K and thought we might have been cleared of the speed restriction. That, however, was not normal for an east landing. I pulled back the power and said we had to be at 250K. He was taken aback. It took a few seconds for him to find it in the notes. A few seconds later approach asked our speed. We were close to 250K by then so I stated so. Arrs and sids come very quickly and often we have just seconds to note a change in procedures. Not all pilots are replete with experience. Sids and stars should be written to make it easier for the pilots to digest quickly. Important items (restrictions) should be written boldly at the point required and never in the notes. On the line, we pilots write them in ourselves when they're hidden in the notes. Subtle changes hidden in the notes are meant for lawyers that have lots of time to read them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SPD RESTRICTION NOT MET ON APCH PROC STAR. FLC COMPOSITION.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED THE ARLIN ARR TO PHX. ARLIN IS 52 W OF THE WILKE VOR 256 DEG RADIAL. WE WERE CLRED TO BE AT ARLIN AT 11000 FT (NORMAL CLRNC). THERE IS ALSO A RESTRICTION TO BE AT 250K BUT IT IS NOT DISPLAYED ON THE ARR BUT RATHER IN THE NOTES. I AM QUITE AWARE OF THE 250K RESTRICTION BUT MY BRAND NEW COPLT MISSED IT. I WAS ON THE RADIO CALLING 'IN RANGE' TO MY OPS. THE COPLT WAS FLYING (HIS LEG) AND HIT ARLIN AT 11000/300K. WHEN I GOT OFF THE RADIO I NOTED THE 300K AND THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN CLRED OF THE SPD RESTRICTION. THAT, HOWEVER, WAS NOT NORMAL FOR AN E LNDG. I PULLED BACK THE PWR AND SAID WE HAD TO BE AT 250K. HE WAS TAKEN ABACK. IT TOOK A FEW SECONDS FOR HIM TO FIND IT IN THE NOTES. A FEW SECONDS LATER APCH ASKED OUR SPD. WE WERE CLOSE TO 250K BY THEN SO I STATED SO. ARRS AND SIDS COME VERY QUICKLY AND OFTEN WE HAVE JUST SECONDS TO NOTE A CHANGE IN PROCS. NOT ALL PLTS ARE REPLETE WITH EXPERIENCE. SIDS AND STARS SHOULD BE WRITTEN TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PLTS TO DIGEST QUICKLY. IMPORTANT ITEMS (RESTRICTIONS) SHOULD BE WRITTEN BOLDLY AT THE POINT REQUIRED AND NEVER IN THE NOTES. ON THE LINE, WE PLTS WRITE THEM IN OURSELVES WHEN THEY'RE HIDDEN IN THE NOTES. SUBTLE CHANGES HIDDEN IN THE NOTES ARE MEANT FOR LAWYERS THAT HAVE LOTS OF TIME TO READ THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.