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Attributes | |
ACN | 263665 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pmd |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : abi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v137 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 263665 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route from oak to psp, I went off frequency to get psp ATIS. When I returned to frequency, ATC called and asked if we were cleared V137 psp? I heard the captain say 'I thought we were cleared V386.' ZLA said turn right 20 degrees to intercept V137 psp. We did. Sometimes I wonder if the age 60 rule is a good thing. The captain is 58 1/2 and this is the second time navigation incidents have occurred when I have been off frequency getting ATIS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HDG TRACK DEV.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM OAK TO PSP, I WENT OFF FREQ TO GET PSP ATIS. WHEN I RETURNED TO FREQ, ATC CALLED AND ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED V137 PSP? I HEARD THE CAPT SAY 'I THOUGHT WE WERE CLRED V386.' ZLA SAID TURN R 20 DEGS TO INTERCEPT V137 PSP. WE DID. SOMETIMES I WONDER IF THE AGE 60 RULE IS A GOOD THING. THE CAPT IS 58 1/2 AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME NAV INCIDENTS HAVE OCCURRED WHEN I HAVE BEEN OFF FREQ GETTING ATIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.