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Attributes | |
ACN | 263794 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tth |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : huf |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Piper Single Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 263794 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR flight plan, ptk LORAN direct to 6m2. I was talking to hulman approach at XU53Z. A piper arrow passed exactly overhead, no more than 100 ft, heading north. I was on a heading of 230 degrees. I asked the controller why he didn't report this plane in my area. He said he did not see him. Seems odd such a plane at 8000 ft going north wouldn't be seen when the controller had no problem seeing me. This is a risky situation if such is the case. Do you have faulty radar? If the other plane was at 8000 ft he must also have been on an IFR plan!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN IFR SMA HAD AN NMAC WITH A VFR SMA.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, PTK LORAN DIRECT TO 6M2. I WAS TALKING TO HULMAN APCH AT XU53Z. A PIPER ARROW PASSED EXACTLY OVERHEAD, NO MORE THAN 100 FT, HDG N. I WAS ON A HDG OF 230 DEGS. I ASKED THE CTLR WHY HE DIDN'T RPT THIS PLANE IN MY AREA. HE SAID HE DID NOT SEE HIM. SEEMS ODD SUCH A PLANE AT 8000 FT GOING N WOULDN'T BE SEEN WHEN THE CTLR HAD NO PROB SEEING ME. THIS IS A RISKY SIT IF SUCH IS THE CASE. DO YOU HAVE FAULTY RADAR? IF THE OTHER PLANE WAS AT 8000 FT HE MUST ALSO HAVE BEEN ON AN IFR PLAN!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.