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Attributes | |
ACN | 264355 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rfd airport : red |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : red |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 264355 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was a scheduled ferry repos flight at the end of a day of part 135 flying. Was second full day of flying with new first officer (ex-military pilot with no/little civilian flying). WX conditions were strong winds (northeast at 20-30 KTS), and heavy snow. Aircraft was a beech 1900D. This aircraft has stall vane heat, but this does not operate until gear off the ground. Right after liftoff stall horn went off continuously. This happens on occasion when be-1900 has landed in snow storm. Stall vane is hot, melts snow, cools and freezes in vane. Vane appeared free and aircraft was ice free at takeoff. Because communication was impossible with stall warning, I had first officer pull the stall aural warning circuit breaker. Note: aircraft was flying fine, no stall at all. First officer was new and asked several questions concerning the flight. I was explaining what was going on when ATC advised, 'air carrier flight number, check altitude, maintain 7000 ft.' I looked back at the altimeter and saw I was at 7600 ft MSL and climbing. I immediately returned to 7000 ft. I realized then that the stall aural warning also controls altitude alert tone and therefore we never heard the tone. Problems/resolution: I became distracted and should have paid more attention to the flying. Be-1900 stall heat should operate (at least at a low setting) on the ground so it works at takeoff. My company (air carrier) trains its first officer's (in no) emergency procedures. A new first officer comes to you virtually useless, other than to be PF. Company should provide, and FARS should require IOE for first officer's so they are trained to do their day-to-day job when they go on-line.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LTT ACR ACFT OVERSHOT CLB ALT DUE TO STALL WARNING PROB DISTR.
Narrative: FLT WAS A SCHEDULED FERRY REPOS FLT AT THE END OF A DAY OF PART 135 FLYING. WAS SECOND FULL DAY OF FLYING WITH NEW FO (EX-MIL PLT WITH NO/LITTLE CIVILIAN FLYING). WX CONDITIONS WERE STRONG WINDS (NE AT 20-30 KTS), AND HVY SNOW. ACFT WAS A BEECH 1900D. THIS ACFT HAS STALL VANE HEAT, BUT THIS DOES NOT OPERATE UNTIL GEAR OFF THE GND. RIGHT AFTER LIFTOFF STALL HORN WENT OFF CONTINUOUSLY. THIS HAPPENS ON OCCASION WHEN BE-1900 HAS LANDED IN SNOW STORM. STALL VANE IS HOT, MELTS SNOW, COOLS AND FREEZES IN VANE. VANE APPEARED FREE AND ACFT WAS ICE FREE AT TKOF. BECAUSE COM WAS IMPOSSIBLE WITH STALL WARNING, I HAD FO PULL THE STALL AURAL WARNING CIRCUIT BREAKER. NOTE: ACFT WAS FLYING FINE, NO STALL AT ALL. FO WAS NEW AND ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE FLT. I WAS EXPLAINING WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN ATC ADVISED, 'ACR FLT NUMBER, CHK ALT, MAINTAIN 7000 FT.' I LOOKED BACK AT THE ALTIMETER AND SAW I WAS AT 7600 FT MSL AND CLBING. I IMMEDIATELY RETURNED TO 7000 FT. I REALIZED THEN THAT THE STALL AURAL WARNING ALSO CTLS ALT ALERT TONE AND THEREFORE WE NEVER HEARD THE TONE. PROBS/RESOLUTION: I BECAME DISTRACTED AND SHOULD HAVE PAID MORE ATTN TO THE FLYING. BE-1900 STALL HEAT SHOULD OPERATE (AT LEAST AT A LOW SETTING) ON THE GND SO IT WORKS AT TKOF. MY COMPANY (ACR) TRAINS ITS FO'S (IN NO) EMER PROCS. A NEW FO COMES TO YOU VIRTUALLY USELESS, OTHER THAN TO BE PF. COMPANY SHOULD PROVIDE, AND FARS SHOULD REQUIRE IOE FOR FO'S SO THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO THEIR DAY-TO-DAY JOB WHEN THEY GO ON-LINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.