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Attributes | |
ACN | 264872 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing : missed approach landing other other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 264872 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Arrived at teb from yip with 5500 pounds of fuel on board which is approximately 2 hours duration. The FMS showed the aircraft required 6000 ft on a wet runway. The approach in use was VOR DME to runway 24 which is 6000 ft long. We had just the right fuel load. We were advised by ATC that the aircraft ahead on the approach landed in spite of the visibility. We missed the approach at teb and was advised on unicom that the teb WX is now '0/0.' we then requested ILS 22L at ewr. While being vectored for this approach, the 767 ahead of us was given the touchdown RVR to be 1200 ft and rollout RVR to be 700 ft and then executed a missed approach too. We flew the approach to minimums with no ground contact and also missed the approach. It seemed to us that ewr was about to change to ILS runway 4R after our miss. We were then given a climb to 4000 ft and a vector to sbj VOR. We were then cleared to hold south of sbj on the 180 degree radial with no efc given then we were cleared to climb to 5000 ft. It became clear that our next approach would be some time from now. With 3200 pounds of fuel remaining (1 hour) we advised ATC we could hold for 15 mins longer and requested ILS runway 4R CAT ii. Shortly after that we were given a vector for the ILS runway 4R, and were asked souls on board and told the emergency equipment was standing by. We landed on runway 4R and taxied in with 2400 pounds of fuel remaining (45 mins). Somewhere along the line ATC thought we were critically low on fuel. Although after 2 missed approachs and holding we were getting low. Never was the situation critical. We do appreciate ATC's timely response to our situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORPORATE ACFT MAKES MISSED APCH THEN PUT IN AIR HOLD. ADVISES CAN ONLY HOLD 15 MINS. ATC DECLARES EMER.
Narrative: ARRIVED AT TEB FROM YIP WITH 5500 LBS OF FUEL ON BOARD WHICH IS APPROX 2 HRS DURATION. THE FMS SHOWED THE ACFT REQUIRED 6000 FT ON A WET RWY. THE APCH IN USE WAS VOR DME TO RWY 24 WHICH IS 6000 FT LONG. WE HAD JUST THE RIGHT FUEL LOAD. WE WERE ADVISED BY ATC THAT THE ACFT AHEAD ON THE APCH LANDED IN SPITE OF THE VISIBILITY. WE MISSED THE APCH AT TEB AND WAS ADVISED ON UNICOM THAT THE TEB WX IS NOW '0/0.' WE THEN REQUESTED ILS 22L AT EWR. WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR THIS APCH, THE 767 AHEAD OF US WAS GIVEN THE TOUCHDOWN RVR TO BE 1200 FT AND ROLLOUT RVR TO BE 700 FT AND THEN EXECUTED A MISSED APCH TOO. WE FLEW THE APCH TO MINIMUMS WITH NO GND CONTACT AND ALSO MISSED THE APCH. IT SEEMED TO US THAT EWR WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE TO ILS RWY 4R AFTER OUR MISS. WE WERE THEN GIVEN A CLB TO 4000 FT AND A VECTOR TO SBJ VOR. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO HOLD S OF SBJ ON THE 180 DEG RADIAL WITH NO EFC GIVEN THEN WE WERE CLRED TO CLB TO 5000 FT. IT BECAME CLR THAT OUR NEXT APCH WOULD BE SOME TIME FROM NOW. WITH 3200 LBS OF FUEL REMAINING (1 HR) WE ADVISED ATC WE COULD HOLD FOR 15 MINS LONGER AND REQUESTED ILS RWY 4R CAT II. SHORTLY AFTER THAT WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR FOR THE ILS RWY 4R, AND WERE ASKED SOULS ON BOARD AND TOLD THE EMER EQUIP WAS STANDING BY. WE LANDED ON RWY 4R AND TAXIED IN WITH 2400 LBS OF FUEL REMAINING (45 MINS). SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE ATC THOUGHT WE WERE CRITICALLY LOW ON FUEL. ALTHOUGH AFTER 2 MISSED APCHS AND HOLDING WE WERE GETTING LOW. NEVER WAS THE SIT CRITICAL. WE DO APPRECIATE ATC'S TIMELY RESPONSE TO OUR SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.