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Attributes | |
ACN | 265653 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sql |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : gsp |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Beechcraft Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 580 |
ASRS Report | 265653 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon reaching the toll plaza at the san mateo bridge, we made visual contact of san carlos airport and requested a frequency change. Bay approach approved our request. At this point we reported 10 mi out at the toll plaza and requested field advisories on the CTAF for san carlos 119.0 and received negative response. We proceeded to make the same request from mid span san mateo bridge and heard, 'winds calm and use the runway of your choice.' and moments later we recognized the voice of airport one, as he complimented the virtues of the v-tail bonanza. We then reported on a right 45 degree entry to the downwind leg of runway 30, there appeared to be no other aircraft in the pattern. We then reported turning right base for runway 30 and in turn reported 1 mi final. We received a transmission that 2 aircraft appeared to be converging. We looked around and saw nothing, due to the fact that no other radio calls were made from another aircraft, no visual contact was made, considering his earlier remarks, the tone of his voice which had no urgency. We thought that he was being facetious. We landed the airplane, reported clear of the active runway, received a transmission that there would be an incident report, at which time we noticed an airplane on final. We taxied to our tie-down and still heard no radio call. An airplane then landed. Saratoga one told us that the radios in small aircraft Y were functional, but he did not hear them make any radio calls either. Key facts: 1) the saratoga did not make any radio calls. 2) the saratoga did not make a standard entry into the pattern. 3) we made the proper entry to the pattern and called out our position in accordance with the rules and regulations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA AT NON TWR ARPT HAS NMAC IN TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: UPON REACHING THE TOLL PLAZA AT THE SAN MATEO BRIDGE, WE MADE VISUAL CONTACT OF SAN CARLOS ARPT AND REQUESTED A FREQ CHANGE. BAY APCH APPROVED OUR REQUEST. AT THIS POINT WE RPTED 10 MI OUT AT THE TOLL PLAZA AND REQUESTED FIELD ADVISORIES ON THE CTAF FOR SAN CARLOS 119.0 AND RECEIVED NEGATIVE RESPONSE. WE PROCEEDED TO MAKE THE SAME REQUEST FROM MID SPAN SAN MATEO BRIDGE AND HEARD, 'WINDS CALM AND USE THE RWY OF YOUR CHOICE.' AND MOMENTS LATER WE RECOGNIZED THE VOICE OF ARPT ONE, AS HE COMPLIMENTED THE VIRTUES OF THE V-TAIL BONANZA. WE THEN RPTED ON A R 45 DEG ENTRY TO THE DOWNWIND LEG OF RWY 30, THERE APPEARED TO BE NO OTHER ACFT IN THE PATTERN. WE THEN RPTED TURNING R BASE FOR RWY 30 AND IN TURN RPTED 1 MI FINAL. WE RECEIVED A XMISSION THAT 2 ACFT APPEARED TO BE CONVERGING. WE LOOKED AROUND AND SAW NOTHING, DUE TO THE FACT THAT NO OTHER RADIO CALLS WERE MADE FROM ANOTHER ACFT, NO VISUAL CONTACT WAS MADE, CONSIDERING HIS EARLIER REMARKS, THE TONE OF HIS VOICE WHICH HAD NO URGENCY. WE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS BEING FACETIOUS. WE LANDED THE AIRPLANE, RPTED CLR OF THE ACTIVE RWY, RECEIVED A XMISSION THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INCIDENT RPT, AT WHICH TIME WE NOTICED AN AIRPLANE ON FINAL. WE TAXIED TO OUR TIE-DOWN AND STILL HEARD NO RADIO CALL. AN AIRPLANE THEN LANDED. SARATOGA ONE TOLD US THAT THE RADIOS IN SMA Y WERE FUNCTIONAL, BUT HE DID NOT HEAR THEM MAKE ANY RADIO CALLS EITHER. KEY FACTS: 1) THE SARATOGA DID NOT MAKE ANY RADIO CALLS. 2) THE SARATOGA DID NOT MAKE A STANDARD ENTRY INTO THE PATTERN. 3) WE MADE THE PROPER ENTRY TO THE PATTERN AND CALLED OUT OUR POS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES AND REGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.