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Attributes | |
ACN | 266028 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | L-1011 Tri-Star All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 7 controller radar : 5 |
ASRS Report | 266028 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X, H/L1011, on ILS runway 31L, advised he was responding to a TCASII RA and climbing. X climbed to 3000 ft. Only other traffic was 3 mi behind, on parallel ILS runway 31R course and not overtaking. TCASII continues to issue needless RA's, especially on final, where proximity of aircraft is closer than that found in the en route environment, but where standard ATC separation is being applied, TCASII may work well away from the airport, but is impractical close to the airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MULTIPLE RWY OP PARALLEL RWY APCHS ACR X TCASII RA NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN FROM Y.
Narrative: ACR X, H/L1011, ON ILS RWY 31L, ADVISED HE WAS RESPONDING TO A TCASII RA AND CLBING. X CLBED TO 3000 FT. ONLY OTHER TFC WAS 3 MI BEHIND, ON PARALLEL ILS RWY 31R COURSE AND NOT OVERTAKING. TCASII CONTINUES TO ISSUE NEEDLESS RA'S, ESPECIALLY ON FINAL, WHERE PROX OF ACFT IS CLOSER THAN THAT FOUND IN THE ENRTE ENVIRONMENT, BUT WHERE STANDARD ATC SEPARATION IS BEING APPLIED, TCASII MAY WORK WELL AWAY FROM THE ARPT, BUT IS IMPRACTICAL CLOSE TO THE ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.