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Attributes | |
ACN | 266298 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sju |
State Reference | PR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sju tower : bfi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 13300 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 266298 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During approach to sju ATC asked if we had the 727 in sight 12-1 O'clock, also landing sju. I looked out and saw a 727 at 11 O'clock and didn't question it, and said yes, then began following aircraft to sju. During turn to intercept localizer, TCASII TA made me look up again more closely to see the second 727 off my right. We did a 360 degree turn to left and advised approach control. I did not question the exact position of the aircraft I saw. I just saw a 727 and said traffic in sight. The controller could have mentioned there were 2 727's and not given me a clearance to follow one until I was sure or had both aircraft in sight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INADEQUATE TA GIVEN.
Narrative: DURING APCH TO SJU ATC ASKED IF WE HAD THE 727 IN SIGHT 12-1 O'CLOCK, ALSO LNDG SJU. I LOOKED OUT AND SAW A 727 AT 11 O'CLOCK AND DIDN'T QUESTION IT, AND SAID YES, THEN BEGAN FOLLOWING ACFT TO SJU. DURING TURN TO INTERCEPT LOC, TCASII TA MADE ME LOOK UP AGAIN MORE CLOSELY TO SEE THE SECOND 727 OFF MY R. WE DID A 360 DEG TURN TO L AND ADVISED APCH CTL. I DID NOT QUESTION THE EXACT POS OF THE ACFT I SAW. I JUST SAW A 727 AND SAID TFC IN SIGHT. THE CTLR COULD HAVE MENTIONED THERE WERE 2 727'S AND NOT GIVEN ME A CLRNC TO FOLLOW ONE UNTIL I WAS SURE OR HAD BOTH ACFT IN SIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.