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Attributes | |
ACN | 266575 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pbi |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pbi |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 75 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 266575 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My route was vrb-lna-fmy-vrb. When I approached west palm beach, my position was between jupiter inlet and tailwinds private 2500 ft. I tired to call palm beach approach but he said stand by. I made 3 times 360 degree left turn. After that I called approach again and then he gave me a squawk. 2 mins after, I saw the west palm beach international airport, but he still talked with 727. During he talked with 727, he asked me my position. I said 'over airport 2500.' he said, 727 is right side. I said traffic in sight, but he said I didn't get a clearance to class C (not establish radio). I think my mistake is without establish radio communication entering class C. I learned, I must attempt to establish radio-communication 20 NM before class C. I learned must pick a point on the map where I establish radio communication or I can't go any further. I try to prevent from making mistakes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE PENETRATION OF CLASS C AIRSPACE WITHOUT CONTACT.
Narrative: MY RTE WAS VRB-LNA-FMY-VRB. WHEN I APCHED WEST PALM BEACH, MY POS WAS BTWN JUPITER INLET AND TAILWINDS PVT 2500 FT. I TIRED TO CALL PALM BEACH APCH BUT HE SAID STAND BY. I MADE 3 TIMES 360 DEG L TURN. AFTER THAT I CALLED APCH AGAIN AND THEN HE GAVE ME A SQUAWK. 2 MINS AFTER, I SAW THE WEST PALM BEACH INTL ARPT, BUT HE STILL TALKED WITH 727. DURING HE TALKED WITH 727, HE ASKED ME MY POS. I SAID 'OVER ARPT 2500.' HE SAID, 727 IS R SIDE. I SAID TFC IN SIGHT, BUT HE SAID I DIDN'T GET A CLRNC TO CLASS C (NOT ESTABLISH RADIO). I THINK MY MISTAKE IS WITHOUT ESTABLISH RADIO COM ENTERING CLASS C. I LEARNED, I MUST ATTEMPT TO ESTABLISH RADIO-COM 20 NM BEFORE CLASS C. I LEARNED MUST PICK A POINT ON THE MAP WHERE I ESTABLISH RADIO COM OR I CAN'T GO ANY FURTHER. I TRY TO PREVENT FROM MAKING MISTAKES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.