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Attributes | |
ACN | 266634 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : isp |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other ground : parked |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 3 controller radar : 1 |
ASRS Report | 266634 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 16 flight time total : 35 flight time type : 35 |
ASRS Report | 266636 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Small aircraft X, a cessna 172, was in right closed traffic to runway 24. Atx Y, a BA31, was on final for runway 24. X made a 360 degree turn on downwind for spacing. X reported back on downwind and was instructed to follow the BA31 on 2 mi final and told to advise when X had the traffic in sight. X said 'negative.' then Y said he had traffic coming at him. I asked X if she was still on the downwind. She said affirmative. Y was told the cessna will follow him and Y said the cessna was not on downwind, but opposite direction on the final. I believe when X came out of the 360 degree turn back to downwind was too close to the final the runway. X was a student pilot in tough-and-go pattern. Supplemental information from acn 266636: I am a student pilot and was on my second unsupervised solo. I was on my downwind leg for runway 24. The tower told me to do a left 360 degree turn, which I did. I was on an extended downwind, I didn't have a ground reference to base my distance on. I noticed I was drifting and corrected, but only to find that I drifted anyhow. I looked up and saw another aircraft and heard him call the tower. At this time I proceeded to correct the situation. I feel that this was not that hazardous of a situation because I had the time and room to correct the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA X HAD NMAC WITH ATX Y IN ATA. EVASIVE ACTION TURN. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: SMA X, A CESSNA 172, WAS IN R CLOSED TFC TO RWY 24. ATX Y, A BA31, WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 24. X MADE A 360 DEG TURN ON DOWNWIND FOR SPACING. X RPTED BACK ON DOWNWIND AND WAS INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW THE BA31 ON 2 MI FINAL AND TOLD TO ADVISE WHEN X HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. X SAID 'NEGATIVE.' THEN Y SAID HE HAD TFC COMING AT HIM. I ASKED X IF SHE WAS STILL ON THE DOWNWIND. SHE SAID AFFIRMATIVE. Y WAS TOLD THE CESSNA WILL FOLLOW HIM AND Y SAID THE CESSNA WAS NOT ON DOWNWIND, BUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION ON THE FINAL. I BELIEVE WHEN X CAME OUT OF THE 360 DEG TURN BACK TO DOWNWIND WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE FINAL THE RWY. X WAS A STUDENT PLT IN TOUGH-AND-GO PATTERN. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 266636: I AM A STUDENT PLT AND WAS ON MY SECOND UNSUPERVISED SOLO. I WAS ON MY DOWNWIND LEG FOR RWY 24. THE TWR TOLD ME TO DO A L 360 DEG TURN, WHICH I DID. I WAS ON AN EXTENDED DOWNWIND, I DIDN'T HAVE A GND REF TO BASE MY DISTANCE ON. I NOTICED I WAS DRIFTING AND CORRECTED, BUT ONLY TO FIND THAT I DRIFTED ANYHOW. I LOOKED UP AND SAW ANOTHER ACFT AND HEARD HIM CALL THE TWR. AT THIS TIME I PROCEEDED TO CORRECT THE SIT. I FEEL THAT THIS WAS NOT THAT HAZARDOUS OF A SIT BECAUSE I HAD THE TIME AND ROOM TO CORRECT THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.