A cpr crew doesn't know the difference between a STAR and a profile descent.

Attributes
ACN	267434
Time
Date	199403
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ape airport : luk
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 14000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 2150 flight time type : 50
ASRS Report	267434
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 50
ASRS Report	267135
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Flying to luk. Was told by ZID approximately 20 NM from appleton VOR to expect the blunt 8 arrival to luk. Center advised me to contact ZID, (approximately 10 NM from appleton VOR) -- at this time I asked the new controller 'am I cleared for the blunt 8 arrival?' and ZID replied. 'Cleared for the blunt 8 arrival'. There was no! Altitude restr given to me in the clearance by ZID, when he cleared me for the STAR. After appleton VOR, I started my approach and left 14000 on the 255 degree radial. At 12800 ZID asked my altitude, and I replied 12800 -- he asked if I was canceling my IFR and I said no -- the controller asked me to level at 12000. Again, the controller who issued me the clearance did not give me an altitude to maintain. It should have been stated. Cleared for the blunt 8 arrival to luk maintain 14000, if the controller wanted me to stay at 14000.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A CPR CREW DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BTWN A STAR AND A PROFILE DSCNT.

Narrative: FLYING TO LUK. WAS TOLD BY ZID APPROX 20 NM FROM APPLETON VOR TO EXPECT THE BLUNT 8 ARR TO LUK. CTR ADVISED ME TO CONTACT ZID, (APPROX 10 NM FROM APPLETON VOR) -- AT THIS TIME I ASKED THE NEW CTLR 'AM I CLRED FOR THE BLUNT 8 ARR?' AND ZID REPLIED. 'CLRED FOR THE BLUNT 8 ARR'. THERE WAS NO! ALT RESTR GIVEN TO ME IN THE CLRNC BY ZID, WHEN HE CLRED ME FOR THE STAR. AFTER APPLETON VOR, I STARTED MY APCH AND LEFT 14000 ON THE 255 DEG RADIAL. AT 12800 ZID ASKED MY ALT, AND I REPLIED 12800 -- HE ASKED IF I WAS CANCELING MY IFR AND I SAID NO -- THE CTLR ASKED ME TO LEVEL AT 12000. AGAIN, THE CTLR WHO ISSUED ME THE CLRNC DID NOT GIVE ME AN ALT TO MAINTAIN. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STATED. CLRED FOR THE BLUNT 8 ARR TO LUK MAINTAIN 14000, IF THE CTLR WANTED ME TO STAY AT 14000.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.