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Attributes | |
ACN | 268941 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : nrt |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 268941 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Other captain flew first half of flight. On STAR the #1 engine had 'engine cont #1' advisory. Copilot looked at book and they said we are going, it's ok. 2 days later I thought about it and decided we probably were not legal to takeoff. There has been much confusion as we were able to depart with status message displayed. Then, no, we had to check with maintenance and MEL, then yes it's ok to depart without contacting maintenance. I was thinking yes it's ok to takeoff if we have a message once we leave the gate. It's the old, tired someone else is flying and checked it complacency mode. Message never returned in flight when recall button pushed. Tired, complacent, and influenced by others.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB LEAVING NARITA HAS ADVISORY MESSAGE DISPLAYED REF ENG, THEY TKOF.
Narrative: OTHER CAPT FLEW FIRST HALF OF FLT. ON STAR THE #1 ENG HAD 'ENG CONT #1' ADVISORY. COPLT LOOKED AT BOOK AND THEY SAID WE ARE GOING, IT'S OK. 2 DAYS LATER I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND DECIDED WE PROBABLY WERE NOT LEGAL TO TKOF. THERE HAS BEEN MUCH CONFUSION AS WE WERE ABLE TO DEPART WITH STATUS MESSAGE DISPLAYED. THEN, NO, WE HAD TO CHK WITH MAINT AND MEL, THEN YES IT'S OK TO DEPART WITHOUT CONTACTING MAINT. I WAS THINKING YES IT'S OK TO TKOF IF WE HAVE A MESSAGE ONCE WE LEAVE THE GATE. IT'S THE OLD, TIRED SOMEONE ELSE IS FLYING AND CHKED IT COMPLACENCY MODE. MESSAGE NEVER RETURNED IN FLT WHEN RECALL BUTTON PUSHED. TIRED, COMPLACENT, AND INFLUENCED BY OTHERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.