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Attributes | |
ACN | 269680 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fll |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 269680 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft X, B727, climbing to assigned altitude of 5000 ft. Aircraft Y B727, level at 6000 ft on downwind to fll. X advised he was receiving a TCASII RA to descend. I had previously issued traffic to X, which he acknowledged. After X advised me he was responding to RA, I once again advised him the traffic was 1000 ft above his assigned altitude. Miami approach airspace contains many areas where aircraft on downwind are 1000 ft above departure aircraft. Even though required separation exists, there have been countless incidents of TCASII RA's in this situation. Fortunately, there have been few incidents where separation is lost. Miami should be added to the list of areas where the FAA has recommended TCASII be used in the TA mode only.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT X TCASII RA WITH ACFT Y WHEN STANDARD SEPARATION EXISTED. FLAWED TCASII LOGIC.
Narrative: ACFT X, B727, CLBING TO ASSIGNED ALT OF 5000 FT. ACFT Y B727, LEVEL AT 6000 FT ON DOWNWIND TO FLL. X ADVISED HE WAS RECEIVING A TCASII RA TO DSND. I HAD PREVIOUSLY ISSUED TFC TO X, WHICH HE ACKNOWLEDGED. AFTER X ADVISED ME HE WAS RESPONDING TO RA, I ONCE AGAIN ADVISED HIM THE TFC WAS 1000 FT ABOVE HIS ASSIGNED ALT. MIAMI APCH AIRSPACE CONTAINS MANY AREAS WHERE ACFT ON DOWNWIND ARE 1000 FT ABOVE DEP ACFT. EVEN THOUGH REQUIRED SEPARATION EXISTS, THERE HAVE BEEN COUNTLESS INCIDENTS OF TCASII RA'S IN THIS SIT. FORTUNATELY, THERE HAVE BEEN FEW INCIDENTS WHERE SEPARATION IS LOST. MIAMI SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF AREAS WHERE THE FAA HAS RECOMMENDED TCASII BE USED IN THE TA MODE ONLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.