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Attributes | |
ACN | 270108 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mve |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Cessna 340/340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 270108 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I did the VOR approach at montevideo, mn (VOR runway 14). AWOS reported 600 ft and 1 mi visibility at the start of the approach. At the time the owner of the chapter company, a 25000 hour pilot, was in the right seat, although not in the official capacity of copilot as we have no copilot program in our operations specifications. After we came to the VOR and had little ground contact I missed the approach and called the miss to ZMP. I started the climb to 2000 ft then turned right to the VOR. I told the other pilot to 'give me the missed approach' and turned back to flying the aircraft and trying to establish contact with ZMP. As the other pilot said nothing about the missed approach procedure. After looking at it, I assumed we were doing alright and then I began to worry about lost communications. Since I thought we were executing the missed approach properly I wanted to climb and hoped to get back with center. At about 4500 ft MSL, center contacted us and told us we were too high and should be at 2600 ft in the hold. I blame this on relying on another pilot without clear cut duties and also would strongly suggest a note on the missed approach that center frequency is unavailable at 2600 ft and to cal princeton on 122.45. A real missed is too busy to have to worry about lost communications!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF AN SMT TWIN ENG ATX ACFT OVERSHOT THE MISSED APCH HOLD ALT DURING A MISSED APCH.
Narrative: I DID THE VOR APCH AT MONTEVIDEO, MN (VOR RWY 14). AWOS RPTED 600 FT AND 1 MI VISIBILITY AT THE START OF THE APCH. AT THE TIME THE OWNER OF THE CHAPTER COMPANY, A 25000 HR PLT, WAS IN THE R SEAT, ALTHOUGH NOT IN THE OFFICIAL CAPACITY OF COPLT AS WE HAVE NO COPLT PROGRAM IN OUR OPS SPECS. AFTER WE CAME TO THE VOR AND HAD LITTLE GND CONTACT I MISSED THE APCH AND CALLED THE MISS TO ZMP. I STARTED THE CLB TO 2000 FT THEN TURNED R TO THE VOR. I TOLD THE OTHER PLT TO 'GIVE ME THE MISSED APCH' AND TURNED BACK TO FLYING THE ACFT AND TRYING TO ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH ZMP. AS THE OTHER PLT SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE MISSED APCH PROC. AFTER LOOKING AT IT, I ASSUMED WE WERE DOING ALRIGHT AND THEN I BEGAN TO WORRY ABOUT LOST COMS. SINCE I THOUGHT WE WERE EXECUTING THE MISSED APCH PROPERLY I WANTED TO CLB AND HOPED TO GET BACK WITH CTR. AT ABOUT 4500 FT MSL, CTR CONTACTED US AND TOLD US WE WERE TOO HIGH AND SHOULD BE AT 2600 FT IN THE HOLD. I BLAME THIS ON RELYING ON ANOTHER PLT WITHOUT CLR CUT DUTIES AND ALSO WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST A NOTE ON THE MISSED APCH THAT CTR FREQ IS UNAVAILABLE AT 2600 FT AND TO CAL PRINCETON ON 122.45. A REAL MISSED IS TOO BUSY TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LOST COMS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.