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Attributes | |
ACN | 270315 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iso |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iso artcc : zmp |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Bird Dog 305/321 |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 270315 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 350 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I held L19 for and was told by the ground controller that there would be some delay in issuing my IFR clearance. I advised them that I would depart VFR and pick up IFR clearance from seymour johnson AFB in the air. Ground advises me to taxi to runway 5 in front of the L19. While taxiing to runway 5, L19 ask ground (controller was working both ground and tower) for an intersection takeoff. L19 departed runway 5 first at an intersection close to the approach end of 5. I called ready for departure. Tower ask L19 to 'say your direction of flight.' no response. Tower ask me 'say you've direction of flight.' I respond 200 degrees. Tower clears me for takeoff with a right turn on course approved. Tower again asked the airborne L19, 'L19 say your direction of flight.' L19 then replies 180 degree. Tower replies right turn on course approved. At that moment I realized that L19 didn't know where I was and the iso tower hadn't apparently noticed that the 2 aircraft would be converging very very soon. L19 turned to his 180 degree heading. I was given my takeoff and turn clearance first. I was already in my right turn when I saw the L19 begin his turn in my direction too! I immediately turned further right to insure that ole L19 and myself would not become another pope AFB tragedy. I was closing on the L19 very rapidly. I continued the flight on to ilm uneventful after being told by iso tower to contact seymour johnson for my IFR clearance. Nothing was communicated from the iso tower as to why I had turned my aircraft so suddenly. When I landed at ilm the tower asked me to 'call the iso tower.' I did and was told that they were displeased with my turnout and low pass over the tower and terminal building. I would just like to say that I do not do low steep bank turnouts anywhere much less at an ATC facility unless an in-flight emergency requires one (far 91.3 (B)). In my opinion, the iso tower cleared a faster airplane (me) for takeoff much too soon behind a slower airplane. I would have normally declined the takeoff clearance except that I had been cleared for a right turn out and L19 hadn't and he was still on runway heading. I detest iso tower attempting to implicate me for something that was clearly their mistake.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOW DEP TURN OVER TWR CAUSES TWR CTLR TO INSIST ON FLC ATC REVIEW WITH PLT OF SMT. CONVERGING TFC.
Narrative: I HELD L19 FOR AND WAS TOLD BY THE GND CTLR THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME DELAY IN ISSUING MY IFR CLRNC. I ADVISED THEM THAT I WOULD DEPART VFR AND PICK UP IFR CLRNC FROM SEYMOUR JOHNSON AFB IN THE AIR. GND ADVISES ME TO TAXI TO RWY 5 IN FRONT OF THE L19. WHILE TAXIING TO RWY 5, L19 ASK GND (CTLR WAS WORKING BOTH GND AND TWR) FOR AN INTXN TKOF. L19 DEPARTED RWY 5 FIRST AT AN INTXN CLOSE TO THE APCH END OF 5. I CALLED READY FOR DEP. TWR ASK L19 TO 'SAY YOUR DIRECTION OF FLT.' NO RESPONSE. TWR ASK ME 'SAY YOU'VE DIRECTION OF FLT.' I RESPOND 200 DEGS. TWR CLRS ME FOR TKOF WITH A R TURN ON COURSE APPROVED. TWR AGAIN ASKED THE AIRBORNE L19, 'L19 SAY YOUR DIRECTION OF FLT.' L19 THEN REPLIES 180 DEG. TWR REPLIES R TURN ON COURSE APPROVED. AT THAT MOMENT I REALIZED THAT L19 DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS AND THE ISO TWR HADN'T APPARENTLY NOTICED THAT THE 2 ACFT WOULD BE CONVERGING VERY VERY SOON. L19 TURNED TO HIS 180 DEG HDG. I WAS GIVEN MY TKOF AND TURN CLRNC FIRST. I WAS ALREADY IN MY R TURN WHEN I SAW THE L19 BEGIN HIS TURN IN MY DIRECTION TOO! I IMMEDIATELY TURNED FURTHER R TO INSURE THAT OLE L19 AND MYSELF WOULD NOT BECOME ANOTHER POPE AFB TRAGEDY. I WAS CLOSING ON THE L19 VERY RAPIDLY. I CONTINUED THE FLT ON TO ILM UNEVENTFUL AFTER BEING TOLD BY ISO TWR TO CONTACT SEYMOUR JOHNSON FOR MY IFR CLRNC. NOTHING WAS COMMUNICATED FROM THE ISO TWR AS TO WHY I HAD TURNED MY ACFT SO SUDDENLY. WHEN I LANDED AT ILM THE TWR ASKED ME TO 'CALL THE ISO TWR.' I DID AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY WERE DISPLEASED WITH MY TURNOUT AND LOW PASS OVER THE TWR AND TERMINAL BUILDING. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT DO LOW STEEP BANK TURNOUTS ANYWHERE MUCH LESS AT AN ATC FACILITY UNLESS AN INFLT EMER REQUIRES ONE (FAR 91.3 (B)). IN MY OPINION, THE ISO TWR CLRED A FASTER AIRPLANE (ME) FOR TKOF MUCH TOO SOON BEHIND A SLOWER AIRPLANE. I WOULD HAVE NORMALLY DECLINED THE TKOF CLRNC EXCEPT THAT I HAD BEEN CLRED FOR A R TURN OUT AND L19 HADN'T AND HE WAS STILL ON RWY HDG. I DETEST ISO TWR ATTEMPTING TO IMPLICATE ME FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS CLEARLY THEIR MISTAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.