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Attributes | |
ACN | 270320 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ste |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zmp |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 3 controller radar : 4 |
ASRS Report | 270320 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 19200 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was training a developmental on the radar position. Aircraft X had departed atw, vectors around active military airspace, climbing to 90. (Aircraft was requesting 160, unable due to conflicting aircraft Y at 100). Aircraft were at 90 and 100 within 2 mi of each other. Y requested lower due to the fact they were about 30 mi from their destination. Developmental unabled the request, stating traffic, 10 O'clock, 90 nwbound. Developmental then reclred X to proceed on course and issued a climb to 140. I was making note of the situation to discuss with him later, listening to the clearance. I was shocked to hear him climb the aircraft. Before I was able to key my microphone, the pilot was giving a readback. I told developmental to keep them at 90. As soon as pilot finished readback he attempted to stop them at 90. Other traffic on frequency blocked his transmission. Third attempt was successful, but aircraft was at 93, thus loss of separation. Current training program allows too many marginal trainees to reach the control room floor for OJT. Oklahoma city could change their program (like it used to be) and reinstitute a pass/fail program at en route ctrs for the phase 8 non radar training to identify or remove marginal trainees.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT X CLB THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT HAD LTSS FROM ACFT Y. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: I WAS TRAINING A DEVELOPMENTAL ON THE RADAR POS. ACFT X HAD DEPARTED ATW, VECTORS AROUND ACTIVE MIL AIRSPACE, CLBING TO 90. (ACFT WAS REQUESTING 160, UNABLE DUE TO CONFLICTING ACFT Y AT 100). ACFT WERE AT 90 AND 100 WITHIN 2 MI OF EACH OTHER. Y REQUESTED LOWER DUE TO THE FACT THEY WERE ABOUT 30 MI FROM THEIR DEST. DEVELOPMENTAL UNABLED THE REQUEST, STATING TFC, 10 O'CLOCK, 90 NWBOUND. DEVELOPMENTAL THEN RECLRED X TO PROCEED ON COURSE AND ISSUED A CLB TO 140. I WAS MAKING NOTE OF THE SIT TO DISCUSS WITH HIM LATER, LISTENING TO THE CLRNC. I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR HIM CLB THE ACFT. BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO KEY MY MIKE, THE PLT WAS GIVING A READBACK. I TOLD DEVELOPMENTAL TO KEEP THEM AT 90. AS SOON AS PLT FINISHED READBACK HE ATTEMPTED TO STOP THEM AT 90. OTHER TFC ON FREQ BLOCKED HIS XMISSION. THIRD ATTEMPT WAS SUCCESSFUL, BUT ACFT WAS AT 93, THUS LOSS OF SEPARATION. CURRENT TRAINING PROGRAM ALLOWS TOO MANY MARGINAL TRAINEES TO REACH THE CTL ROOM FLOOR FOR OJT. OKLAHOMA CITY COULD CHANGE THEIR PROGRAM (LIKE IT USED TO BE) AND REINSTITUTE A PASS/FAIL PROGRAM AT ENRTE CTRS FOR THE PHASE 8 NON RADAR TRAINING TO IDENT OR REMOVE MARGINAL TRAINEES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.