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Attributes | |
ACN | 270526 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel |
Qualification | other |
ASRS Report | 270526 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
The said flight sent me a message that engine anti-ice was not operating. We had communicated via the ACARS unit for about 10 mins while I was checking to see if I could get flight into the new york terminal area. Response time from the flight was very rapid. But when I told the flight I had many PIREPS of icing and confirmed this with our meteorological department, he cut off communications and landed anyway. The system of joint responsibility between pilots and dispatchers only works when both parties are willing to listen to the other.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FLC DISREGARDED THE ADVICE OF ITS DISPATCHER.
Narrative: THE SAID FLT SENT ME A MESSAGE THAT ENG ANTI-ICE WAS NOT OPERATING. WE HAD COMMUNICATED VIA THE ACARS UNIT FOR ABOUT 10 MINS WHILE I WAS CHKING TO SEE IF I COULD GET FLT INTO THE NEW YORK TERMINAL AREA. RESPONSE TIME FROM THE FLT WAS VERY RAPID. BUT WHEN I TOLD THE FLT I HAD MANY PIREPS OF ICING AND CONFIRMED THIS WITH OUR METEOROLOGICAL DEPT, HE CUT OFF COMS AND LANDED ANYWAY. THE SYS OF JOINT RESPONSIBILITY BTWN PLTS AND DISPATCHERS ONLY WORKS WHEN BOTH PARTIES ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE OTHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.