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Attributes | |
ACN | 271624 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ont |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ont |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 271624 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On approach into ontario we were cleared for visual approach following an (air carrier Y) plane which was in sight. I declined the clearance as we were about to enter broken layer of clouds at 12000 ft MSL. About 30 seconds after entering clouds, our TCASII gave us a TA followed by a descend command RA. The TCASII screen showed traffic in front and behind us and we initiated a descent. ATC frequency was congested and about 15 seconds passed before able to transmit. Due to continued RA I declared an emergency, however ATC was unable to understand due to TCASII noise level. I was unable to communicate with captain, also because of the loudness of TCASII alert. We then broke out of the clouds, the alert ceased, and we saw the airport and asked for a visual approach. We were cleared for a visual approach to 26R and canceled our attempt for declaring an emergency. When we talked to ATC on the phone afterwards, she stated that TCASII alerts were 'normal' for that sector. In my opinion traffic congestion and radio congestion is a problem in the ontario area. The loudness of our TCASII alert added to the confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MLG DSNDED FROM ASSIGNED DSCNT ALT IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND MOMENTARILY DECLARED AN EMER.
Narrative: ON APCH INTO ONTARIO WE WERE CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH FOLLOWING AN (ACR Y) PLANE WHICH WAS IN SIGHT. I DECLINED THE CLRNC AS WE WERE ABOUT TO ENTER BROKEN LAYER OF CLOUDS AT 12000 FT MSL. ABOUT 30 SECONDS AFTER ENTERING CLOUDS, OUR TCASII GAVE US A TA FOLLOWED BY A DSND COMMAND RA. THE TCASII SCREEN SHOWED TFC IN FRONT AND BEHIND US AND WE INITIATED A DSCNT. ATC FREQ WAS CONGESTED AND ABOUT 15 SECONDS PASSED BEFORE ABLE TO XMIT. DUE TO CONTINUED RA I DECLARED AN EMER, HOWEVER ATC WAS UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND DUE TO TCASII NOISE LEVEL. I WAS UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH CAPT, ALSO BECAUSE OF THE LOUDNESS OF TCASII ALERT. WE THEN BROKE OUT OF THE CLOUDS, THE ALERT CEASED, AND WE SAW THE ARPT AND ASKED FOR A VISUAL APCH. WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO 26R AND CANCELED OUR ATTEMPT FOR DECLARING AN EMER. WHEN WE TALKED TO ATC ON THE PHONE AFTERWARDS, SHE STATED THAT TCASII ALERTS WERE 'NORMAL' FOR THAT SECTOR. IN MY OPINION TFC CONGESTION AND RADIO CONGESTION IS A PROB IN THE ONTARIO AREA. THE LOUDNESS OF OUR TCASII ALERT ADDED TO THE CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.