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Attributes | |
ACN | 271837 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zmp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 21000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : alw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zmp |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 271837 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The incident occurred on climb out from msp. A master caution message was received indicating that #3 brake temperature was at 680 degrees. A brief discussion with the first officer ensued and we both felt it was an erroneous message. To be conservative we obtained a descent clearance to 10000 and extended the landing gear in descent. Shortly after extension the amber 680 indication changed to green and 80 degrees. We climbed back up to cruise altitude, checked fuel, contacted dispatch, and proceeded routinely to sna. Landing at sna, the #3 brake temperature indicator operated normally, providing temperature information similar to the other 3 brake indicators. In other words, the airplane was operating normally, there was no squawk or problem to write up. There had been no other messages or anything non-routine during the 3 hours of remaining cruise to sna. I mentioned the indicator problem to the waiting mechanics (doing a daily check I presume), but made no logbook writeup. I did make the effort to contact the flight crew taking the airplane outbound to notify them of the false warning. In retrospect, I can see where the argument could be made for a logbook writeup so an official record could be built in the company computer system. There was no history of similar problems on the airplane. My concern is the lack of a logbook writeup.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG BRAKE INDICATED HOT DURING CLBOUT AND CAPT FAILED TO MAKE ACFT LOG ENTRY AFTER DSNDING AND EXTENDING THE GEAR TO COOL OFF THE BRAKE.
Narrative: THE INCIDENT OCCURRED ON CLBOUT FROM MSP. A MASTER CAUTION MESSAGE WAS RECEIVED INDICATING THAT #3 BRAKE TEMP WAS AT 680 DEGS. A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH THE FO ENSUED AND WE BOTH FELT IT WAS AN ERRONEOUS MESSAGE. TO BE CONSERVATIVE WE OBTAINED A DSCNT CLRNC TO 10000 AND EXTENDED THE LNDG GEAR IN DSCNT. SHORTLY AFTER EXTENSION THE AMBER 680 INDICATION CHANGED TO GREEN AND 80 DEGS. WE CLBED BACK UP TO CRUISE ALT, CHKED FUEL, CONTACTED DISPATCH, AND PROCEEDED ROUTINELY TO SNA. LNDG AT SNA, THE #3 BRAKE TEMP INDICATOR OPERATED NORMALLY, PROVIDING TEMP INFO SIMILAR TO THE OTHER 3 BRAKE INDICATORS. IN OTHER WORDS, THE AIRPLANE WAS OPERATING NORMALLY, THERE WAS NO SQUAWK OR PROB TO WRITE UP. THERE HAD BEEN NO OTHER MESSAGES OR ANYTHING NON-ROUTINE DURING THE 3 HRS OF REMAINING CRUISE TO SNA. I MENTIONED THE INDICATOR PROB TO THE WAITING MECHS (DOING A DAILY CHK I PRESUME), BUT MADE NO LOGBOOK WRITEUP. I DID MAKE THE EFFORT TO CONTACT THE FLC TAKING THE AIRPLANE OUTBOUND TO NOTIFY THEM OF THE FALSE WARNING. IN RETROSPECT, I CAN SEE WHERE THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE FOR A LOGBOOK WRITEUP SO AN OFFICIAL RECORD COULD BE BUILT IN THE COMPANY COMPUTER SYS. THERE WAS NO HISTORY OF SIMILAR PROBS ON THE AIRPLANE. MY CONCERN IS THE LACK OF A LOGBOOK WRITEUP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.