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Attributes | |
ACN | 272389 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdf |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 272389 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We were instructed by ground to follow aircraft B to runway 1 and he was instructed to hold short of 1/19. We departed the ramp and entered hotel. Aircraft B was quite some distance ahead on hotel but not on runway 1/19. I noticed hold lines and stopped. We asked ground if these were the hold lines for 1/19 and they said they weren't sure, that the lines may have been left over from when kilo had been a runway! As we continued, we noticed that there were no more hold short lines or runway marking signs for 1/19 between our position and the runway. Aircraft B had misread and passed over the lines by 100 yards. An aircraft was cleared to land on 1 with aircraft B within the runway safety area. He landed, was not advised of aircraft B's position, but turned off on an earlier taxiway. The exit at hotel was completely blocked by the aircraft B 737. The attached chart shows the position of the signs and hold lines. The red and white 1/19 sign depicts taxiway kilo as runway 1/19! On taxiway kilo, the signs and lines depict hotel as the runway! This area is in dire need of cleaning up. On this occasion, no near misses or incidents occurred. Add darkness and fog and you have a major accident. After takeoff, the air carrier B realized that something was not right (my question alerted him) and he asked if tower had a problem with their hold short point. The tower said everything was ok. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting captain is on the airport standards committee for his pilot's union. The union has been notified, as well as his chief pilot. The reporter will call the FAA safety hotline. The situation seems to be well in hand from his point of view. He submitted the report to enlist our aid to rectify this situation. A call to the facility about the signage reveals that the situation is as described by the reporter, however, they have not had any problems from other pilots missing the hold lines or taxiing onto the runway. The controller stated that the airport is in the process of updating the signs and markings to comply with the advisory circular. They do not consider this to be a safety hazard.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT RPTS MISPLACED AND CONFUSING TXWY HOTLINES AT SDF.
Narrative: WE WERE INSTRUCTED BY GND TO FOLLOW ACFT B TO RWY 1 AND HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF 1/19. WE DEPARTED THE RAMP AND ENTERED HOTEL. ACFT B WAS QUITE SOME DISTANCE AHEAD ON HOTEL BUT NOT ON RWY 1/19. I NOTICED HOLD LINES AND STOPPED. WE ASKED GND IF THESE WERE THE HOLD LINES FOR 1/19 AND THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T SURE, THAT THE LINES MAY HAVE BEEN LEFT OVER FROM WHEN KILO HAD BEEN A RWY! AS WE CONTINUED, WE NOTICED THAT THERE WERE NO MORE HOLD SHORT LINES OR RWY MARKING SIGNS FOR 1/19 BTWN OUR POS AND THE RWY. ACFT B HAD MISREAD AND PASSED OVER THE LINES BY 100 YARDS. AN ACFT WAS CLRED TO LAND ON 1 WITH ACFT B WITHIN THE RWY SAFETY AREA. HE LANDED, WAS NOT ADVISED OF ACFT B'S POS, BUT TURNED OFF ON AN EARLIER TXWY. THE EXIT AT HOTEL WAS COMPLETELY BLOCKED BY THE ACFT B 737. THE ATTACHED CHART SHOWS THE POS OF THE SIGNS AND HOLD LINES. THE RED AND WHITE 1/19 SIGN DEPICTS TXWY KILO AS RWY 1/19! ON TXWY KILO, THE SIGNS AND LINES DEPICT HOTEL AS THE RWY! THIS AREA IS IN DIRE NEED OF CLEANING UP. ON THIS OCCASION, NO NEAR MISSES OR INCIDENTS OCCURRED. ADD DARKNESS AND FOG AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR ACCIDENT. AFTER TKOF, THE ACR B REALIZED THAT SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT (MY QUESTION ALERTED HIM) AND HE ASKED IF TWR HAD A PROB WITH THEIR HOLD SHORT POINT. THE TWR SAID EVERYTHING WAS OK. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING CAPT IS ON THE ARPT STANDARDS COMMITTEE FOR HIS PLT'S UNION. THE UNION HAS BEEN NOTIFIED, AS WELL AS HIS CHIEF PLT. THE RPTR WILL CALL THE FAA SAFETY HOTLINE. THE SIT SEEMS TO BE WELL IN HAND FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW. HE SUBMITTED THE RPT TO ENLIST OUR AID TO RECTIFY THIS SIT. A CALL TO THE FACILITY ABOUT THE SIGNAGE REVEALS THAT THE SIT IS AS DESCRIBED BY THE RPTR, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBS FROM OTHER PLTS MISSING THE HOLD LINES OR TAXIING ONTO THE RWY. THE CTLR STATED THAT THE ARPT IS IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE SIGNS AND MARKINGS TO COMPLY WITH THE ADVISORY CIRCULAR. THEY DO NOT CONSIDER THIS TO BE A SAFETY HAZARD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.