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Attributes | |
ACN | 272622 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : n90 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 272622 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Leveling off at 14000 ft on radar vector to eliot international. Received TCASII TA with traffic at 1-2 O'clock. 900 ft below us, climbing -- did not get visual contact or a TA from ny departure. A few seconds after the TA, got 'climb -- climb' RA. Climbed to approximately 14600 ft before RA stopped -- advised ny as we began climbing, and we got an 'okay' for a response, followed by a clearance to 15000 ft. Ny apparently did not see the traffic, or was too busy. The traffic was obviously VFR climbing. The main problem was the VFR pilot was flying over the world's busiest class B airspace without talking to the TRACON. Maybe he tried and ATC was too busy. If it weren't for TCASII I would not be writing this!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII.
Narrative: LEVELING OFF AT 14000 FT ON RADAR VECTOR TO ELIOT INTL. RECEIVED TCASII TA WITH TFC AT 1-2 O'CLOCK. 900 FT BELOW US, CLBING -- DID NOT GET VISUAL CONTACT OR A TA FROM NY DEP. A FEW SECONDS AFTER THE TA, GOT 'CLB -- CLB' RA. CLBED TO APPROX 14600 FT BEFORE RA STOPPED -- ADVISED NY AS WE BEGAN CLBING, AND WE GOT AN 'OKAY' FOR A RESPONSE, FOLLOWED BY A CLRNC TO 15000 FT. NY APPARENTLY DID NOT SEE THE TFC, OR WAS TOO BUSY. THE TFC WAS OBVIOUSLY VFR CLBING. THE MAIN PROB WAS THE VFR PLT WAS FLYING OVER THE WORLD'S BUSIEST CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT TALKING TO THE TRACON. MAYBE HE TRIED AND ATC WAS TOO BUSY. IF IT WEREN'T FOR TCASII I WOULD NOT BE WRITING THIS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.