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Attributes | |
ACN | 273049 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gdm |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10700 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zbw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 360 |
ASRS Report | 273049 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the gardner 2 arrival into bos we were given 'cross bronc 11000 ft and 250 KIAS.' I was the PF. In the descent at about 22500 ft and descending, the captain tells me he's going to leave the cockpit for a quick break. I think, 'this is not a good time,' but as we're just recently met and I can't think of a quick and tactful way to state disapproval, I'm quiet. So I'm descending to make the crossing restr and monitoring the busy ATC frequency and doing the descent checklist through 18000 ft and tugging at my altimeter button and his altimeter button and resetting the standby barometer altimeter to match the others (that was tugging the altimeter reset buttons only, not resetting to the proper setting!) I leveled off at what I thought was 11000 ft, 250 KIAS at bronc. The controller said 'boston altimeter 29.92' (or 29.91) and I read it back confirming the proper setting written down on my ATIS form and still not catching my error. I believe because there wasn't a challenge and response of the descent check at 18000 ft I wasn't mentally below 18000 ft. A min or 2 later, the captain returned, then I caught my error and we found all 3 altimeters set to the departure setting of 30.17 instead of the bos arrival setting 29.92. We set all 3 altimeters to the correct setting. The aircraft was 200-300 ft low. We eased the aircraft back to 11000 ft. Nothing was said and the rest of the flight was normal. (It take 2 or more when things get busy!)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF ACR MLG OVERSHOT XING ALT RESTR DUE TO NOT SETTING THE ALTIMETERS TO CURRENT SETTING.
Narrative: ON THE GARDNER 2 ARR INTO BOS WE WERE GIVEN 'CROSS BRONC 11000 FT AND 250 KIAS.' I WAS THE PF. IN THE DSCNT AT ABOUT 22500 FT AND DSNDING, THE CAPT TELLS ME HE'S GOING TO LEAVE THE COCKPIT FOR A QUICK BREAK. I THINK, 'THIS IS NOT A GOOD TIME,' BUT AS WE'RE JUST RECENTLY MET AND I CAN'T THINK OF A QUICK AND TACTFUL WAY TO STATE DISAPPROVAL, I'M QUIET. SO I'M DSNDING TO MAKE THE XING RESTR AND MONITORING THE BUSY ATC FREQ AND DOING THE DSCNT CHKLIST THROUGH 18000 FT AND TUGGING AT MY ALTIMETER BUTTON AND HIS ALTIMETER BUTTON AND RESETTING THE STANDBY BAROMETER ALTIMETER TO MATCH THE OTHERS (THAT WAS TUGGING THE ALTIMETER RESET BUTTONS ONLY, NOT RESETTING TO THE PROPER SETTING!) I LEVELED OFF AT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS 11000 FT, 250 KIAS AT BRONC. THE CTLR SAID 'BOSTON ALTIMETER 29.92' (OR 29.91) AND I READ IT BACK CONFIRMING THE PROPER SETTING WRITTEN DOWN ON MY ATIS FORM AND STILL NOT CATCHING MY ERROR. I BELIEVE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A CHALLENGE AND RESPONSE OF THE DSCNT CHK AT 18000 FT I WASN'T MENTALLY BELOW 18000 FT. A MIN OR 2 LATER, THE CAPT RETURNED, THEN I CAUGHT MY ERROR AND WE FOUND ALL 3 ALTIMETERS SET TO THE DEP SETTING OF 30.17 INSTEAD OF THE BOS ARR SETTING 29.92. WE SET ALL 3 ALTIMETERS TO THE CORRECT SETTING. THE ACFT WAS 200-300 FT LOW. WE EASED THE ACFT BACK TO 11000 FT. NOTHING WAS SAID AND THE REST OF THE FLT WAS NORMAL. (IT TAKE 2 OR MORE WHEN THINGS GET BUSY!)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.