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Attributes | |
ACN | 273082 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 13600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse tower : iah |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 1900 |
ASRS Report | 273082 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Captain's leg from sea to pdx. He was hand flying aircraft on raw data, then selected the flight director. I noticed that altitude capture mode wasn't programmed but since he was hand flying I decided to wait until he engaged the afcs (automatic flight control system) before telling him that he hadn't yet selected the altitude capture. At some point he turned on the autoplt and I missed it. Our clearance was to level off at 13000 ft. Passing 12000 ft, I made my required call of '1000 to go' and he acknowledged it. Then I replaced departure charts into binder and pulled out arrival charts for portland. When I looked at the altimeter, we were climbing through 13600 ft MSL. I said something to the captain and he swore and started us down to 13000 ft. 2 seconds later ATC queried what altitude had we been cleared to? I replied that we were leveling at 13000 ft. TCASII showed no traffic within 20 NM above us. I have now seen how important it is that all other tasks wait until after the last 1000 ft of an altitude capture have passed. The reason that I didn't say something about the setup right away was because it was the first trip (second day) I have flown with this captain and I didn't want to come across as an 'instructor pilot' pointing out mistakes without giving him the chance to catch it himself.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF MDT OVERSHOT ASSIGNED CLB ALT.
Narrative: CAPT'S LEG FROM SEA TO PDX. HE WAS HAND FLYING ACFT ON RAW DATA, THEN SELECTED THE FLT DIRECTOR. I NOTICED THAT ALT CAPTURE MODE WASN'T PROGRAMMED BUT SINCE HE WAS HAND FLYING I DECIDED TO WAIT UNTIL HE ENGAGED THE AFCS (AUTOMATIC FLT CTL SYS) BEFORE TELLING HIM THAT HE HADN'T YET SELECTED THE ALT CAPTURE. AT SOME POINT HE TURNED ON THE AUTOPLT AND I MISSED IT. OUR CLRNC WAS TO LEVEL OFF AT 13000 FT. PASSING 12000 FT, I MADE MY REQUIRED CALL OF '1000 TO GO' AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED IT. THEN I REPLACED DEP CHARTS INTO BINDER AND PULLED OUT ARR CHARTS FOR PORTLAND. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE ALTIMETER, WE WERE CLBING THROUGH 13600 FT MSL. I SAID SOMETHING TO THE CAPT AND HE SWORE AND STARTED US DOWN TO 13000 FT. 2 SECONDS LATER ATC QUERIED WHAT ALT HAD WE BEEN CLRED TO? I REPLIED THAT WE WERE LEVELING AT 13000 FT. TCASII SHOWED NO TFC WITHIN 20 NM ABOVE US. I HAVE NOW SEEN HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT ALL OTHER TASKS WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE LAST 1000 FT OF AN ALT CAPTURE HAVE PASSED. THE REASON THAT I DIDN'T SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE SETUP RIGHT AWAY WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST TRIP (SECOND DAY) I HAVE FLOWN WITH THIS CAPT AND I DIDN'T WANT TO COME ACROSS AS AN 'INSTRUCTOR PLT' POINTING OUT MISTAKES WITHOUT GIVING HIM THE CHANCE TO CATCH IT HIMSELF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.