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Air carrier large transport entered restr airspace due to WX and a short notice from the restr area controling agency to ATC of its closure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 273267 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199405 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : elp |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 273267 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : declared emergency other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
We were just north of elp on an assigned heading talking to ZAB on 128.2. ZAB requested that we turn 10 degrees left and I stated, 'unable, due to a cumulus' just to the left of our nose. ATC stated that 'cherokee' control had just closed restr airspace 5107B to him. After hearing my problem, he rechked with 'cherokee' and after a min he called me and asked me to squawk 7700 on the transponder. I was surprised that he asked us to do that since I had not declared an emergency. I assume ATC must have used this method to alert 'cherokee' control we were cutting the corner of the restr area. In about 4-5 mins I was able to turn left, after passing the 'cumulus' there seems to be a problem between ATC and the military control. ATC should have had some earlier warning that the restr area was closing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ENTERED RESTR AIRSPACE DUE TO WX AND A SHORT NOTICE FROM THE RESTR AREA CTLING AGENCY TO ATC OF ITS CLOSURE.
Narrative: WE WERE JUST N OF ELP ON AN ASSIGNED HDG TALKING TO ZAB ON 128.2. ZAB REQUESTED THAT WE TURN 10 DEGS L AND I STATED, 'UNABLE, DUE TO A CUMULUS' JUST TO THE L OF OUR NOSE. ATC STATED THAT 'CHEROKEE' CTL HAD JUST CLOSED RESTR AIRSPACE 5107B TO HIM. AFTER HEARING MY PROB, HE RECHKED WITH 'CHEROKEE' AND AFTER A MIN HE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME TO SQUAWK 7700 ON THE XPONDER. I WAS SURPRISED THAT HE ASKED US TO DO THAT SINCE I HAD NOT DECLARED AN EMER. I ASSUME ATC MUST HAVE USED THIS METHOD TO ALERT 'CHEROKEE' CTL WE WERE CUTTING THE CORNER OF THE RESTR AREA. IN ABOUT 4-5 MINS I WAS ABLE TO TURN L, AFTER PASSING THE 'CUMULUS' THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROB BTWN ATC AND THE MIL CTL. ATC SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME EARLIER WARNING THAT THE RESTR AREA WAS CLOSING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.