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Training in progress in a night operation at omn airport. Controller at dab TRACON advises, after radar vectoring, that IAP VOR approach is not authorized.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 273442 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199406 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : omn |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 1600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dab artcc : zny |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 410 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 273442 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
| Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Cfii requested a local IFR clearance to do some practice holding and approachs for an instrument training flight. On initial call up to daytona approach, I requested the VOR holding over omn followed by the VOR 8 into omn low approach. We requested the approach out of holding and were 'cleared for the approach.' about 1 min 30 seconds outbound for the procedure turn, the controller advised, 'the VOR 8 approach has been unusable for some time.' not knowing if we were in danger of obstacles, we climbed immediately to be vectored for another practice approach. Controller should have not issued the clearance for an unusable approach. Pilots were using current charts/plates. Recommend nos not publish approachs in current plates if the approachs are unusable and have been unusable for quite some time. Very dangerous! Second time now where I've run into problems using current nos charts. Checking NOTAMS didn't help in either situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINING IN PROGRESS IN A NIGHT OP AT OMN ARPT. CTLR AT DAB TRACON ADVISES, AFTER RADAR VECTORING, THAT IAP VOR APCH IS NOT AUTHORIZED.
Narrative: CFII REQUESTED A LCL IFR CLRNC TO DO SOME PRACTICE HOLDING AND APCHS FOR AN INST TRAINING FLT. ON INITIAL CALL UP TO DAYTONA APCH, I REQUESTED THE VOR HOLDING OVER OMN FOLLOWED BY THE VOR 8 INTO OMN LOW APCH. WE REQUESTED THE APCH OUT OF HOLDING AND WERE 'CLRED FOR THE APCH.' ABOUT 1 MIN 30 SECONDS OUTBOUND FOR THE PROC TURN, THE CTLR ADVISED, 'THE VOR 8 APCH HAS BEEN UNUSABLE FOR SOME TIME.' NOT KNOWING IF WE WERE IN DANGER OF OBSTACLES, WE CLBED IMMEDIATELY TO BE VECTORED FOR ANOTHER PRACTICE APCH. CTLR SHOULD HAVE NOT ISSUED THE CLRNC FOR AN UNUSABLE APCH. PLTS WERE USING CURRENT CHARTS/PLATES. RECOMMEND NOS NOT PUBLISH APCHS IN CURRENT PLATES IF THE APCHS ARE UNUSABLE AND HAVE BEEN UNUSABLE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. VERY DANGEROUS! SECOND TIME NOW WHERE I'VE RUN INTO PROBS USING CURRENT NOS CHARTS. CHKING NOTAMS DIDN'T HELP IN EITHER SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.