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Attributes | |
ACN | 274236 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pxv |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 10 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 274236 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It had been my takeoff from stl earlier but it was windy in stl and on liftoff the aircraft rocked somewhat. We did not think anything of it. In cvg the captain performed the takeoff. Upon rotation the aircraft again rocked left to right then back. It acted as though there may have been ice on the wing but that wasn't the case. It was 90 degrees F in cvg and this was a DC9-10 with no odd icing characteristics as the MD80. This rocking concerned us greatly since it was more pronounced on the second takeoff. We were climbing to FL250. At FL240 I called 1000 to go 24 VOR 25 and the captain acknowledged the call. He continued to discuss the possibilities that had to be considered due to the way the aircraft acted on takeoff. It was presently on autoplt. As I put away my cvg charts I heard the altitude bell we were at 25250 ft and climbing. I called altitude and the captain descended back to FL250. I believed the highest we got was FL254. On the way back center requested our altitude. I read what it was at the time FL252. I asked center if there would be a problem with this and they said 'no.' on arrival in stl the landing was uneventful. We carried an additional 20 KTS on final. Maintenance determined that it was an autoplt yaw damper problem. I guess the way to prevent sits such as this would be to do one thing at a time, but that gets rather difficult in a 2-MAN operation on short flight legs and then add in a problem that requires thought and preparation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG HAS CTL PROB OK TKOF, MISSES ALT ASSIGNED.
Narrative: IT HAD BEEN MY TKOF FROM STL EARLIER BUT IT WAS WINDY IN STL AND ON LIFTOFF THE ACFT ROCKED SOMEWHAT. WE DID NOT THINK ANYTHING OF IT. IN CVG THE CAPT PERFORMED THE TKOF. UPON ROTATION THE ACFT AGAIN ROCKED L TO R THEN BACK. IT ACTED AS THOUGH THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ICE ON THE WING BUT THAT WASN'T THE CASE. IT WAS 90 DEGS F IN CVG AND THIS WAS A DC9-10 WITH NO ODD ICING CHARACTERISTICS AS THE MD80. THIS ROCKING CONCERNED US GREATLY SINCE IT WAS MORE PRONOUNCED ON THE SECOND TKOF. WE WERE CLBING TO FL250. AT FL240 I CALLED 1000 TO GO 24 VOR 25 AND THE CAPT ACKNOWLEDGED THE CALL. HE CONTINUED TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITIES THAT HAD TO BE CONSIDERED DUE TO THE WAY THE ACFT ACTED ON TKOF. IT WAS PRESENTLY ON AUTOPLT. AS I PUT AWAY MY CVG CHARTS I HEARD THE ALT BELL WE WERE AT 25250 FT AND CLBING. I CALLED ALT AND THE CAPT DSNDED BACK TO FL250. I BELIEVED THE HIGHEST WE GOT WAS FL254. ON THE WAY BACK CTR REQUESTED OUR ALT. I READ WHAT IT WAS AT THE TIME FL252. I ASKED CTR IF THERE WOULD BE A PROB WITH THIS AND THEY SAID 'NO.' ON ARR IN STL THE LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL. WE CARRIED AN ADDITIONAL 20 KTS ON FINAL. MAINT DETERMINED THAT IT WAS AN AUTOPLT YAW DAMPER PROB. I GUESS THE WAY TO PREVENT SITS SUCH AS THIS WOULD BE TO DO ONE THING AT A TIME, BUT THAT GETS RATHER DIFFICULT IN A 2-MAN OP ON SHORT FLT LEGS AND THEN ADD IN A PROB THAT REQUIRES THOUGHT AND PREPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.