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Attributes | |
ACN | 274306 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : wvi |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 41 flight time total : 731 flight time type : 14 |
ASRS Report | 274306 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying with a commercial single and multi-engine instrument rated pilot. I am preparing him for his CFI check ride. The night of jun/xx/94 we went flying to practice night lndgs, with and without the landing light as well as emergency procedures. It was late at night and I had already had a long day which included teaching ground school. I was more relaxed than I would have been with a student pilot. I was showing him how to teach night lndgs to his future students. After 3 successful lndgs, we decided to do one more. On this one, I asked him to simulate an engine failure by pulling the throttle to idle and landing. I told him to pull the power himself when we were in a comfortable position to land. I had warned him about stalling too high and hitting the runway hard. He pulled the power to idle and, when we were about 10 ft off the runway, we thought that we were approaching a stall (we were not). He then violently pushed the yoke forward all the way. I was lifted out of my seat. I panicked and grabbed the yoke and began pulling back. At about the same time he did the same thing. We were both pulling back and overrotated and hit the tail on the runway before the main wheels touched. The damage was: the tail tie-down ring was knocked off, and a slight twist in the elevator due to too much control force applied by myself and my student. I was tired that night and over estimated his flying abilities and was not prepared mentally to have to take over the controls. I should have reacted sooner and yelled 'I got it!'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OVER CTL CAUSES THE ELEVATOR TO BE TWISTED AND THE TAIL TIE DOWN RING TO BE BROKEN OFF.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING WITH A COMMERCIAL SINGLE AND MULTI-ENG INSTR RATED PLT. I AM PREPARING HIM FOR HIS CFI CHK RIDE. THE NIGHT OF JUN/XX/94 WE WENT FLYING TO PRACTICE NIGHT LNDGS, WITH AND WITHOUT THE LNDG LIGHT AS WELL AS EMER PROCS. IT WAS LATE AT NIGHT AND I HAD ALREADY HAD A LONG DAY WHICH INCLUDED TEACHING GND SCHOOL. I WAS MORE RELAXED THAN I WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH A STUDENT PLT. I WAS SHOWING HIM HOW TO TEACH NIGHT LNDGS TO HIS FUTURE STUDENTS. AFTER 3 SUCCESSFUL LNDGS, WE DECIDED TO DO ONE MORE. ON THIS ONE, I ASKED HIM TO SIMULATE AN ENG FAILURE BY PULLING THE THROTTLE TO IDLE AND LNDG. I TOLD HIM TO PULL THE PWR HIMSELF WHEN WE WERE IN A COMFORTABLE POS TO LAND. I HAD WARNED HIM ABOUT STALLING TOO HIGH AND HITTING THE RWY HARD. HE PULLED THE PWR TO IDLE AND, WHEN WE WERE ABOUT 10 FT OFF THE RWY, WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE APCHING A STALL (WE WERE NOT). HE THEN VIOLENTLY PUSHED THE YOKE FORWARD ALL THE WAY. I WAS LIFTED OUT OF MY SEAT. I PANICKED AND GRABBED THE YOKE AND BEGAN PULLING BACK. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME HE DID THE SAME THING. WE WERE BOTH PULLING BACK AND OVERROTATED AND HIT THE TAIL ON THE RWY BEFORE THE MAIN WHEELS TOUCHED. THE DAMAGE WAS: THE TAIL TIE-DOWN RING WAS KNOCKED OFF, AND A SLIGHT TWIST IN THE ELEVATOR DUE TO TOO MUCH CTL FORCE APPLIED BY MYSELF AND MY STUDENT. I WAS TIRED THAT NIGHT AND OVER ESTIMATED HIS FLYING ABILITIES AND WAS NOT PREPARED MENTALLY TO HAVE TO TAKE OVER THE CTLS. I SHOULD HAVE REACTED SOONER AND YELLED 'I GOT IT!'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.