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Attributes | |
ACN | 275923 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jnu |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 900 msl bound upper : 900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jnu artcc : zan |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skywagon 185 |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 11633 flight time type : 986 |
ASRS Report | 275923 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 30 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Left base leg at 900 ft MSL 25 degree bank, landing runway 26 jnu. Cessna 185 on floats appeared ahead of leading edge of left wing out of left window, approximately distance 30 ft. Maximum nose up and full power applied with resultant stick shaker and no collision. The aircraft, cessna 185, had been instructed to 'keep us in sight' and 'stay low' by jnu tower. We were given a verbal apology by cessna shortly after the incident and he admitted that he had lost sight of us, contrary to ATC instructions. In talking to the tower, we were subsequently informed that it was a transient aircraft unfamiliar with local terminology and that 900 ft probably meant low to him when he was instructed to 'stay low.' suggestions: hold departing, transient aircraft on the ground until after the arrival of acrs, or issue specific instructions, ie, 'maintain 300 ft or below until 6 DME' vice 'stay low.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC WITH ARRIVING MLG AND DEPARTING SMA.
Narrative: LEFT BASE LEG AT 900 FT MSL 25 DEG BANK, LNDG RWY 26 JNU. CESSNA 185 ON FLOATS APPEARED AHEAD OF LEADING EDGE OF L WING OUT OF L WINDOW, APPROX DISTANCE 30 FT. MAX NOSE UP AND FULL PWR APPLIED WITH RESULTANT STICK SHAKER AND NO COLLISION. THE ACFT, CESSNA 185, HAD BEEN INSTRUCTED TO 'KEEP US IN SIGHT' AND 'STAY LOW' BY JNU TWR. WE WERE GIVEN A VERBAL APOLOGY BY CESSNA SHORTLY AFTER THE INCIDENT AND HE ADMITTED THAT HE HAD LOST SIGHT OF US, CONTRARY TO ATC INSTRUCTIONS. IN TALKING TO THE TWR, WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY INFORMED THAT IT WAS A TRANSIENT ACFT UNFAMILIAR WITH LCL TERMINOLOGY AND THAT 900 FT PROBABLY MEANT LOW TO HIM WHEN HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO 'STAY LOW.' SUGGESTIONS: HOLD DEPARTING, TRANSIENT ACFT ON THE GND UNTIL AFTER THE ARR OF ACRS, OR ISSUE SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS, IE, 'MAINTAIN 300 FT OR BELOW UNTIL 6 DME' VICE 'STAY LOW.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.