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Attributes | |
ACN | 277974 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pbi |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 1900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pbi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 277974 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clearance to mia initial altitude was 1600 ft. Altitude alerter not working (captain refused to write up). I was flying captain. Did not call '1000 ft to level off' as company requires aircraft climbing 2500 FPM. He called departure, saying, 'air carrier X, out of 2 for 5,' as I was catching altitude and smoothly leveling. I don't believe I exceeded 1900 ft (300 ft above cleared off), but his call may have gotten their attention. We were on the 14TH leg of a 2-DAY trip and were both extremely fatigued. When is NTSB/FAA finally going to do something about commuter airline work rules? Additionally, high performance turbine aircraft should not receive 1600 ft as an initial altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEV FROM CLRNC CLRNC LIMIT OVERSHOT.
Narrative: CLRNC TO MIA INITIAL ALT WAS 1600 FT. ALT ALERTER NOT WORKING (CAPT REFUSED TO WRITE UP). I WAS FLYING CAPT. DID NOT CALL '1000 FT TO LEVEL OFF' AS COMPANY REQUIRES ACFT CLBING 2500 FPM. HE CALLED DEP, SAYING, 'ACR X, OUT OF 2 FOR 5,' AS I WAS CATCHING ALT AND SMOOTHLY LEVELING. I DON'T BELIEVE I EXCEEDED 1900 FT (300 FT ABOVE CLRED OFF), BUT HIS CALL MAY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR ATTN. WE WERE ON THE 14TH LEG OF A 2-DAY TRIP AND WERE BOTH EXTREMELY FATIGUED. WHEN IS NTSB/FAA FINALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT COMMUTER AIRLINE WORK RULES? ADDITIONALLY, HIGH PERFORMANCE TURBINE ACFT SHOULD NOT RECEIVE 1600 FT AS AN INITIAL ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.