<< >> NASA ASRS Report 279008, July 1994

Widebody transport aircraft has cargo door problem at foreign airport. Local maintenance and headquarters maintenance indicate no MEL necessary.

Attributes
ACN	279008
Time
Date	199407
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : eddf
State Reference	FO
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : lga
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9700 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	279008
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Aircraft
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Question the legality of our release. Was an MEL required? There was a difference of opinion among line maintenance. I believe the conservative course of action would be to receive an MEL. Advised by fra maintenance that an aft cargo door actuator was inoperative. Parts removed and placed in center assembly compartment. Fra maintenance advised. Maintenance and flight crew contacted msp dispatch for MEL 52-3. MEL placard needs to be prepared by dtw maintenance, and lids item entered. Upon further contact with maintenance control and msp dispatch, found no MEL action required. Bulk cargo door counter balance actuator arm broke off. Inspected door hinge, door open, close actuator. No damage noted defer for remain overnight in msp. Parts are in so's desk. Right/right snubber arm and cylinder assembly leak and operations checked ok.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: WDB ACFT HAS CARGO DOOR PROB AT FOREIGN ARPT. LCL MAINT AND HEADQUARTERS MAINT INDICATE NO MEL NECESSARY.

Narrative: QUESTION THE LEGALITY OF OUR RELEASE. WAS AN MEL REQUIRED? THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AMONG LINE MAINT. I BELIEVE THE CONSERVATIVE COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TO RECEIVE AN MEL. ADVISED BY FRA MAINT THAT AN AFT CARGO DOOR ACTUATOR WAS INOP. PARTS REMOVED AND PLACED IN CTR ASSEMBLY COMPARTMENT. FRA MAINT ADVISED. MAINT AND FLC CONTACTED MSP DISPATCH FOR MEL 52-3. MEL PLACARD NEEDS TO BE PREPARED BY DTW MAINT, AND LIDS ITEM ENTERED. UPON FURTHER CONTACT WITH MAINT CTL AND MSP DISPATCH, FOUND NO MEL ACTION REQUIRED. BULK CARGO DOOR COUNTER BAL ACTUATOR ARM BROKE OFF. INSPECTED DOOR HINGE, DOOR OPEN, CLOSE ACTUATOR. NO DAMAGE NOTED DEFER FOR REMAIN OVERNIGHT IN MSP. PARTS ARE IN SO'S DESK. R/R SNUBBER ARM AND CYLINDER ASSEMBLY LEAK AND OPS CHKED OK.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.