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Attributes | |
ACN | 279976 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : wvi |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mry |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Learjet 25 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 279976 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 279979 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Air ambulance transport of critical case patient from ft worth, tx, to watsonville under far 135. Watsonville ASOS was not reporting but was not NOTAM OTS. Salinas and monterey were VFR and forecast to stay that way. On our penetration we discovered no ASOS report to be had. We called unicom and were told the airport was VFR monterey and salinas had gone IFR with fog. Monterey approach control told us that aircraft were getting into watsonville using the localizer to runway 2 and that pilot reports indicated the airport at watsonville was VFR. The approach and landing were uneventful. Safety was never an issue. The question was whether or not we had made an instrument approach to a field without approved WX reporting. It depends on who is defining the terms. Supplemental information from acn 279979: when checking the WX at wvi we found that the ASOS system was inoperative. Safety was not an issue and the landing was uneventful. For us to arrange for an ambulance at salinas, ca, would have put the patient in an unnecessary and stressful position. For the patient's well being we decided to shoot the approach. The other pilot and myself feel that special authorization for medivac should be given in sits like this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX EMS SVC PROCEEDS TO DEST ARPT WITHOUT BENEFIT OF APPROVED WX RPTING SVC.
Narrative: AIR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT OF CRITICAL CASE PATIENT FROM FT WORTH, TX, TO WATSONVILLE UNDER FAR 135. WATSONVILLE ASOS WAS NOT RPTING BUT WAS NOT NOTAM OTS. SALINAS AND MONTEREY WERE VFR AND FORECAST TO STAY THAT WAY. ON OUR PENETRATION WE DISCOVERED NO ASOS RPT TO BE HAD. WE CALLED UNICOM AND WERE TOLD THE ARPT WAS VFR MONTEREY AND SALINAS HAD GONE IFR WITH FOG. MONTEREY APCH CTL TOLD US THAT ACFT WERE GETTING INTO WATSONVILLE USING THE LOC TO RWY 2 AND THAT PLT RPTS INDICATED THE ARPT AT WATSONVILLE WAS VFR. THE APCH AND LNDG WERE UNEVENTFUL. SAFETY WAS NEVER AN ISSUE. THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD MADE AN INST APCH TO A FIELD WITHOUT APPROVED WX RPTING. IT DEPENDS ON WHO IS DEFINING THE TERMS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 279979: WHEN CHKING THE WX AT WVI WE FOUND THAT THE ASOS SYS WAS INOP. SAFETY WAS NOT AN ISSUE AND THE LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL. FOR US TO ARRANGE FOR AN AMBULANCE AT SALINAS, CA, WOULD HAVE PUT THE PATIENT IN AN UNNECESSARY AND STRESSFUL POS. FOR THE PATIENT'S WELL BEING WE DECIDED TO SHOOT THE APCH. THE OTHER PLT AND MYSELF FEEL THAT SPECIAL AUTHORIZATION FOR MEDIVAC SHOULD BE GIVEN IN SITS LIKE THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.