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Attributes | |
ACN | 280295 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : int |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : gso tower : sba |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 5 controller non radar : 2 controller radar : 2 |
ASRS Report | 280295 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier a B737/right departed runway 23 at gso. Air carrier B B737/right 20 NM northwest of gso descending for landing gso. Air carrier a turned right to heading 310 degrees to maintain 5000 ft. Air carrier B descended to 6000 ft heading 050 degrees downwind. Traffic issued to both aircraft. When aircraft about 1 mi apart I observed air carrier a descending to 4500 ft. Air carrier a then called advising he was responding to an RA. Aircraft passed and air carrier a advised he was returning to assigned altitude 5000 ft. I realize the purpose and importance of TCASII, however utilizing this technology in the terminal environment in RA mode represents hazards since aircraft are normally very close together during arrival and departure phases of flight. It also makes me feel kind of worthless after assuring required separation and issuing traffic that an aircraft would still feel the need to deviate from ATC instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII ALERT TO ACR A FOR PROX OF ACR B.
Narrative: ACR A B737/R DEPARTED RWY 23 AT GSO. ACR B B737/R 20 NM NW OF GSO DSNDING FOR LNDG GSO. ACR A TURNED R TO HDG 310 DEGS TO MAINTAIN 5000 FT. ACR B DSNDED TO 6000 FT HDG 050 DEGS DOWNWIND. TFC ISSUED TO BOTH ACFT. WHEN ACFT ABOUT 1 MI APART I OBSERVED ACR A DSNDING TO 4500 FT. ACR A THEN CALLED ADVISING HE WAS RESPONDING TO AN RA. ACFT PASSED AND ACR A ADVISED HE WAS RETURNING TO ASSIGNED ALT 5000 FT. I REALIZE THE PURPOSE AND IMPORTANCE OF TCASII, HOWEVER UTILIZING THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THE TERMINAL ENVIRONMENT IN RA MODE REPRESENTS HAZARDS SINCE ACFT ARE NORMALLY VERY CLOSE TOGETHER DURING ARR AND DEP PHASES OF FLT. IT ALSO MAKES ME FEEL KIND OF WORTHLESS AFTER ASSURING REQUIRED SEPARATION AND ISSUING TFC THAT AN ACFT WOULD STILL FEEL THE NEED TO DEVIATE FROM ATC INSTRUCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.