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Attributes | |
ACN | 281328 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 13 flight time total : 398 flight time type : 360 |
ASRS Report | 281328 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After contacting new york approach, he called our sign, we entered the arsa at about 2000 ft and he assigned vector of 330 degrees. We turned and a min or 2 later, noticed another C172 approximately 400-500 ft to our port side at our altitude heading in the opposite direction. When noted, he was abeam our aircraft. No corrective action was taken as he'd passed us. About 40 seconds later, new york approach controller reported we had traffic that was 'no longer a factor.' my impression is alertness in our aircraft was reduced by the erroneous assumption that one need not be as vigilant as we were receiving radar vectors and any other aircraft would be kept a safe distance from our aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN 2 C172 TYPE ACFT JUST INSIDE AN ARSA (CLASS C) AIRSPACE.
Narrative: AFTER CONTACTING NEW YORK APCH, HE CALLED OUR SIGN, WE ENTERED THE ARSA AT ABOUT 2000 FT AND HE ASSIGNED VECTOR OF 330 DEGS. WE TURNED AND A MIN OR 2 LATER, NOTICED ANOTHER C172 APPROX 400-500 FT TO OUR PORT SIDE AT OUR ALT HDG IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. WHEN NOTED, HE WAS ABEAM OUR ACFT. NO CORRECTIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN AS HE'D PASSED US. ABOUT 40 SECONDS LATER, NEW YORK APCH CTLR RPTED WE HAD TFC THAT WAS 'NO LONGER A FACTOR.' MY IMPRESSION IS ALERTNESS IN OUR ACFT WAS REDUCED BY THE ERRONEOUS ASSUMPTION THAT ONE NEED NOT BE AS VIGILANT AS WE WERE RECEIVING RADAR VECTORS AND ANY OTHER ACFT WOULD BE KEPT A SAFE DISTANCE FROM OUR ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.