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Attributes | |
ACN | 281564 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : ewr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 281564 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 279126 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
7110.65H 5-124 states approach is responsible for final separation, and we also have letter with N90 say the same. 7110.65H 5-72-B states aircraft on an instrument approach by heavy behind heavy-4 mi. As you can see N90 gives us 3 1/2 mi behind a heavy jet, and doesn't even worry about it. This is an everyday problem. Supplemental information from acn 279126: once again while both aircraft on ILS approach to runway 4R, N90 fails to give us 5 mi behind the A300. This happens each and every day. Supplemental information from acn 279124: air carrier X on final behind air carrier Y a heavy A300. Ny TRACON (N90) final controller switched air carrier X to newark tower with 4 1/2 mi separation and decreasing. Local controller initiated a go around for air carrier X. Supervisor advised. Daily log reflects air carrier X decreasing separation at XX05Z. When local initiated go around air carrier X was 4 mi behind air carrier Y.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD HVY JET SEPARATION FROM ACR Y. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: 7110.65H 5-124 STATES APCH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FINAL SEPARATION, AND WE ALSO HAVE LETTER WITH N90 SAY THE SAME. 7110.65H 5-72-B STATES ACFT ON AN INST APCH BY HVY BEHIND HVY-4 MI. AS YOU CAN SEE N90 GIVES US 3 1/2 MI BEHIND A HVY JET, AND DOESN'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT IT. THIS IS AN EVERYDAY PROB. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 279126: ONCE AGAIN WHILE BOTH ACFT ON ILS APCH TO RWY 4R, N90 FAILS TO GIVE US 5 MI BEHIND THE A300. THIS HAPPENS EACH AND EVERY DAY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 279124: ACR X ON FINAL BEHIND ACR Y A HVY A300. NY TRACON (N90) FINAL CTLR SWITCHED ACR X TO NEWARK TWR WITH 4 1/2 MI SEPARATION AND DECREASING. LCL CTLR INITIATED A GAR FOR ACR X. SUPVR ADVISED. DAILY LOG REFLECTS ACR X DECREASING SEPARATION AT XX05Z. WHEN LCL INITIATED GAR ACR X WAS 4 MI BEHIND ACR Y.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.